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I would very gladly read anything and everything posted by Adam Jackson over anything posted by this ^ guy.

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Excellent response. I'll rephrase. Why do you bash HF yet drink their beer?

Because it's ******* beer and I don't take it as seriously as Shuwane disciples?

I would very gladly read anything and everything posted by Adam Jackson over anything posted by this ^ guy.

Go get high and listen to some more Phish you hippie.
 
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Here is something I experienced today:

While returning to a friend's vehicle with my haul I was solicited by a strange old man asking me if I had bought my Art allotment and if I wanted to "make some money". Now Shaun happened to be standing within earshot and told the man to leave and never come back! The nerve of him to deny me the opportunity to turn a trick in the HF parking lot.

Can't believe it, how am I supposed to get the money to buy Ann now?
 
The bottom line is no one was ever denied buying beer.

With all due respect, I would like to rebut this. Not for this release but my wife and I went up the weekend of 10/4. Dorothy and Anna. 2 cases per. We had our 3 year old with us, scoped the growler line and decided **** it we wont make it in time to catch the Alchemist truck sale and a 3 year old in a car for the wait, "at least 3 hours", as Phil put it we opted for bottles only line. I got my 2 cases of Anna, wife got one, then the blonde chick with the ear plugs in asked if that was it. I said no, we'd also like 3 cases of Dorothy (being 2 PP and all). She then says "hold on" goes back and confers with Phil and I am assuming C/Karrie and she comes back and says to me, well we are going to cut the Dorothy limit to 6/ pp in the bottle line, it's getting pretty low, BUT if you wanted to wait in the growler line you can get 2 cases of Dorothy there. I was like OK whatever (cause this makes zero ******* sense to anyone at this point BECAUSE IT'S BOTTLES ONLY IN THIS LINE AND IT's IN BOTTLES) and got 6 (for each of us) and went to Waterbury. I wanted 2 cases of Dorothy in the "bottles only line" as advertised and I was told I couldn't get them there. So hearing someone getting "denied" bottles does not seemed far fetched to me. YMMV.


edit: I guess we would need to know which line they were in. If it were the bottles only line, I wouldnt be surprised. I felt like " Hey we will sell you our advertised allotments, but only if you wait to get them" if that;s the case then why not post a sep. limit for the bottles line?
 
With all due respect, I would like to rebut this. Not for this release but my wife and I went up the weekend of 10/4. Dorothy and Anna. 2 cases per. We had our 3 year old with us, scoped the growler line and decided **** it we wont make it in time to catch the Alchemist truck sale and a 3 year old in a car for the wait, "at least 3 hours", as Phil put it we opted for bottles only line. I got my 2 cases of Anna, wife got one, then the blonde chick with the ear plugs in asked if that was it. I said no, we'd also like 3 cases of Dorothy (being 2 PP and all). She then says "hold on" goes back and confers with Phil and I am assuming C/Karrie and she comes back and says to me, well we are going to cut the Dorothy limit to 6/ pp in the bottle line, it's getting pretty low, BUT if you wanted to wait in the growler line you can get 2 cases of Dorothy there. I was like OK whatever (cause this makes zero ******* sense to anyone at this point BECAUSE IT'S BOTTLES ONLY IN THIS LINE AND IT's IN BOTTLES) and got 6 (for each of us) and went to Waterbury. I wanted 2 cases of Dorothy in the "bottles only line" as advertised and I was told I couldn't get them there. So hearing someone getting "denied" bottles does not seemed far fetched to me. YMMV.


edit: I guess we would need to know which line they were in. If it were the bottles only line, I wouldnt be surprised. I felt like " Hey we will sell you our advertised allotments, but only if you wait to get them" if that;s the case then why not post a sep. limit for the bottles line?
That's a categorically different situation from beer being denied altogether to potential or suspected mules as was alleged to be the case today, particularly since Art was projected to last into the weekend. It's not unreasonable in the least and actually makes sense to cut allotments in the express bottle line if there's a fear of running out of beer on a given day. When particular bottles get really low they're not sold in the bottle line at all. It sucks that the decision was made to cut the allocation on you, but it probably would suck even more to be in the growler line and be denied the opportunity to buy a particular bottle at all because they were all sold to people who didn't care to wait.
 
Shaun was trying to sniff out mules at the DB Damon release and grilling Women and older folks. Nothing is out of the realm of possibility. Anyone who was in the front of the DB Damon line saw this happening. Every single woman that I saw go up to the Pulpit of Shaun was asked questions like "Is this beer for you" " are you going to share this beer". One lady that was not happy with the line of questioning got all huffy with lord beer and said. "your label says share right on the bottom of it, what does it matter what I do with the beer I drove here from NY and waited 3 hours in line" Shaun looked stunned and gave her her golden ticket and moved onto grilling the next older gentleman.

Its his business and he is welcome do to whatever he wants but I have seen stuff like this happen with my own 2 eyes.

Also Clara was apparently cut down to a 1 case limit while people were in line today as well so anything is possible.
 
but it probably would suck even more to be in the growler line and be denied the opportunity to buy a particular bottle at all because they were all sold to people who didn't care to wait.
Is this not a risk you take when waiting in the growler line and hoping to get a bottle that's at the end of its availability? I mean, it's the system HF has built. If you say bottles are available in the bottle line, then they should be available at the same limit you're imposing next door. If they run out, meh? That's life right. Anyway, glad to be up here, looking forward to more growlers to drink in barren NH, but I hope for my own sake (yes, selfish) that I don't have to deal with any of these logical flaws first hand.

And I love you guys. Looking forward to winter. Nope.
 
Actually HF has clearly stated in the past that when supplies are limited, the bottle line will not be allowed to purchase those limited supply bottles. I've even seen them post a sign stating that exact information when in line.

So technically, if you don't want to wait in the growler line, you're taking the risk to miss out on full allotments
 
Is this not a risk you take when waiting in the growler line and hoping to get a bottle that's at the end of its availability? I mean, it's the system HF has built. If you say bottles are available in the bottle line, then they should be available at the same limit you're imposing next door. If they run out, meh? That's life right.

Nope, the growler line is the priority, always has been. The bottle line only exists when there are enough bottles for them to feel comfortable they everyone in the growler line can get their full allotment if desired. There are plenty of times when they might have 3 bottles for sale, but only 2 are available in the bottle line.

With all due respect, I would like to rebut this. Not for this release but my wife and I went up the weekend of 10/4. Dorothy and Anna. 2 cases per. We had our 3 year old with us, scoped the growler line and decided **** it we wont make it in time to catch the Alchemist truck sale and a 3 year old in a car for the wait, "at least 3 hours", as Phil put it we opted for bottles only line. I got my 2 cases of Anna, wife got one, then the blonde chick with the ear plugs in asked if that was it. I said no, we'd also like 3 cases of Dorothy (being 2 PP and all). She then says "hold on" goes back and confers with Phil and I am assuming C/Karrie and she comes back and says to me, well we are going to cut the Dorothy limit to 6/ pp in the bottle line, it's getting pretty low, BUT if you wanted to wait in the growler line you can get 2 cases of Dorothy there. I was like OK whatever (cause this makes zero ******* sense to anyone at this point BECAUSE IT'S BOTTLES ONLY IN THIS LINE AND IT's IN BOTTLES) and got 6 (for each of us) and went to Waterbury. I wanted 2 cases of Dorothy in the "bottles only line" as advertised and I was told I couldn't get them there. So hearing someone getting "denied" bottles does not seemed far fetched to me. YMMV.


edit: I guess we would need to know which line they were in. If it were the bottles only line, I wouldnt be surprised. I felt like " Hey we will sell you our advertised allotments, but only if you wait to get them" if that;s the case then why not post a sep. limit for the bottles line?

They reduce limits on the bottle only line and sometimes stop selling bottles altogether in the bottle only line when supply is running low. And when the do that they also tend to lower the limits of the growler line as well. That is not a new thing they did in an attempt to screw you over. Its a bummer for sure, but as I mentioned the bottle only line is not the priority.

Shaun was trying to sniff out mules at the DB Damon release and grilling Women and older folks. Nothing is out of the realm of possibility. Anyone who was in the front of the DB Damon line saw this happening. Every single woman that I saw go up to the Pulpit of Shaun was asked questions like "Is this beer for you" " are you going to share this beer". One lady that was not happy with the line of questioning got all huffy with lord beer and said. "your label says share right on the bottom of it, what does it matter what I do with the beer I drove here from NY and waited 3 hours in line" Shaun looked stunned and gave her her golden ticket and moved onto grilling the next older gentleman.

Its his business and he is welcome do to whatever he wants but I have seen stuff like this happen with my own 2 eyes.

Also Clara was apparently cut down to a 1 case limit while people were in line today as well so anything is possible.
Two things:
1. You will notice they haven't done another release event since the disaster on 9/26, because they didn't want to deal with issues like that. I haven't seen anything like that since, and I'm up at HF about as often as anyone.
2. As I mentioned above it is very normal for them to lower limits on things as things run out, so cutting Clara limits from 2 cases to 1 isn't abnormal. But yes its still a bummer if you were planning on buying 2, I get that.
 
This thread straight up hurts my head this week. I haven't seen you guys get this worked up over nothing in a while. Like, really, you guys are talking about nothing. This has always been a pretty solid thread for HF info with a relatively low background hum of baseless speculation and very occasional episodes of butthurt - occasional episodes that were at least triggered by, you know, actual events. Take a break for a bit if you must, or drive to Vermont; it's typically a very relaxing setting.
 

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