Hill Farmstead thread

[DmouthCaliBrewz]

Le Sarrasin is actually French for "New Brewery Roof".

Can you pour it on waffles - that's the real question.

Don't forget the almost certainly impending Triple-Barrel Damon (bourbon, port, and maple), which I just made up and am pre-trading.

Franklin is the money I keep hidden under the floorboard of my bedroom; Hill Farmstead Brewery rests upon the land where Franklin grows. In its honor I stuff cash into a single bourbon barrel from our favorite distillery and age it for 1.5 years. It is unfiltered and unreported as income. Aromatic and flowery, with impressions of citrus and pine, this is the money that I refuse to share with the IRS.

Hoard. Obfuscate. Invest.

Asymptocity of Pricing -- a spontaneously fermented ale that has come to rest on carefully captured neckbeards.

You're doing straight $/oz calculations, which don't apply. You need to use beer hoarder math. Here are some key axioms.

375 funky $/volume > 750 funky $/volume
12 oz BB stout $/volume << waxed 750 BB stout $/volume
3L AWA $/volume >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all of Belgium's lambics combined

all of the lulz. all of them.....

 

[tehzachatak]

I'm not sure why a wine barrel adds $18-20 to the cost of a 750mL but apperently many people think it is worth it (not me).

I'm playing Devil's Advocate here, not committed fanboy who thinks brewers can do no wrong, but here's a few reasons:

1. Storage costs. Giving up the space to hold something in a barrel for additional time takes time and space you could be using for other things.
2. Volume loss. Just as with bourbon, aging beer in barrels is going to result in you getting out less volume than you put in. I would love to have some idea of how much the volume loss is - I can't imagine, given the aging period, that it's very much, but it exists!
3. Barrel cost. The barrels do, in fact, cost money, especially if they're first use barrels, which is usually what I read "aged in wine barrels" as (don't know if this is true). They likely cost money to acquire, and if, for some reason, they don't, they certainly cost money to transport to the brewery
4. Labor costs. Moving beer from a tank into the barrel, then back out of the barrel into a tank then bottling is a lot more work than bottling right off the tank.

Granted, these four items are true for all HF saisons to a limited degree, as they're all oaked, but the smaller the barrel, the bigger the issues these are, and the "barrel aged" saisons are in smaller barrels than the regular saisons that are just "oaked."

 

[bsc]

I'm aware of all those things. None make a beer cost 3x what it would without a barrel.

That said, no one makes ya buy it so I won't be complaining merely pointing out the lol with the pricing.

 

[Adam Jackson]

Took some photos yesterday while picking about a bucket's worth of flowers. Vera Mae Day 2014 was a lot of fun!

http://adam-jackson.net/beer/travel-hill-farmstead-vera-mae-day-2014/


---also, I wanted to avoid the Waterbury crowds this weekend so I invited 5 home brewers over to my place and we raided the cellar. Didn't get to Flora, Madness Vertical or CD5-9 but we did start with 2 Ls of Amarillo and Harland before we even opened any bottles:

 

[Osyrus]

I'm aware of all those things. None make a beer cost 3x what it would without a barrel.

Source?

I think you underestimate the cost of time, cost of collaborating, etc.

 

[Osyrus]

Took some photos yesterday while picking about a bucket's worth of flowers. Vera Mae Day 2014 was a lot of fun!

http://adam-jackson.net/beer/travel-hill-farmstead-vera-mae-day-2014/


---also, I wanted to avoid the Waterbury crowds this weekend so I invited 5 home brewers over to my place and we raided the cellar. Didn't get to Flora, Madness Vertical or CD5-9 but we did start with 2 Ls of Amarillo and Harland before we even opened any bottles:

Great photos!

 

[OnryAndMean]

If anyone is going up for Le Sarrasin and Brother, and is looking for Norma and Convivial, let me know

 

[omgeezo]

Anyone who has tried le serrasin knows it is a special beer. After drinking it next to other world class beers (hommage, fou, st lam, etc) it stood out as being quite remarkable.

I would gladly pay $30

 

[Number45]

Anyone who has tried le serrasin knows it is a special beer. After drinking it next to other world class beers (hommage, fou, st lam, etc) it stood out as being quite remarkable.

I would gladly pay $30

Agreed. I had Fou, St. Lam, Hommage, Proleg, Elab 1, Anna, Arthur, Vera Mae and that UNBELIEVABLE Jackie O's pear sour that night. I'd put La Serrasin next to any of them. As in, if given choice between La Serrasin and Fou, I'd think about it. I'd probably still pick FF cause APRICOTS BRO, but I'd think about it.

 

[tehzachatak]

Took some photos yesterday while picking about a bucket's worth of flowers. Vera Mae Day 2014 was a lot of fun!

http://adam-jackson.net/beer/travel-hill-farmstead-vera-mae-day-2014/


---also, I wanted to avoid the Waterbury crowds this weekend so I invited 5 home brewers over to my place and we raided the cellar. Didn't get to Flora, Madness Vertical or CD5-9 but we did start with 2 Ls of Amarillo and Harland before we even opened any bottles:

man oh man, F w/ C is beautiful.

 

[bsc]

Source?

I think you underestimate the cost of time, cost of collaborating, etc.

And out comes the biggest fanboy in all the land.

 

[Number45]

Took some photos yesterday while picking about a bucket's worth of flowers. Vera Mae Day 2014 was a lot of fun!

http://adam-jackson.net/beer/travel-hill-farmstead-vera-mae-day-2014/


---also, I wanted to avoid the Waterbury crowds this weekend so I invited 5 home brewers over to my place and we raided the cellar. Didn't get to Flora, Madness Vertical or CD5-9 but we did start with 2 Ls of Amarillo and Harland before we even opened any bottles:

Woah, cool thing with introducing people to HF beers. Also, holy crap does Flora with Cherries look great! How did it taste? Now I wish I had trekked back up there to help out yesterday. I'm such a stupid.

 

[Osyrus]

And out comes the biggest fanboy in all the land.

Quite possibly. Doubtful, but possible. Though that's hardly offensive.

It was a legit question though. How do you know that none of those things increase costs accordingly? You've suggested that the cost structure of every extended barrel aged beer is the same and it is not. I'm not trying to be an ass to you. I just enjoy things being factual.

 

[pjl44]

And out comes the biggest fanboy in all the land.

I'll take 20 fanboys over 1 BA grump that migrates over. Go round up Pahn and you two can spread your misery like Batman and Robin over here.

 

[markgugs]

all of the lulz. all of them.....

Seriously. The people at the hotel bar are looking at me strangely as I laugh quite literally out loud many times over.

 

[PrinceCaspian]

Dis thread givez me the srs lulz.

It's perfectly fine--encouraged, even--to criticize... sometimes thoughtfully, sometimes wittily, sometimes both, and sometimes neither. But if you dare to challenge the criticism, you're a thoughtless fanboy/fanboi. Is this in the site's terms and conditions somewhere and did I just miss it?

 

[SeaWatchman]

I'm surprised you didn't have to write a treatise on Dandelion classification to be able to have the honor of picking them with Shuwane.

 

[grandmeaulnes]

I'm surprised you didn't have to write a treatise on Dandelion classification to be able to have the honor of picking them with Shuwane.

 

[Wagon Circler]

Took some photos yesterday while picking about a bucket's worth of flowers. Vera Mae Day 2014 was a lot of fun!

http://adam-jackson.net/beer/travel-hill-farmstead-vera-mae-day-2014/


---also, I wanted to avoid the Waterbury crowds this weekend so I invited 5 home brewers over to my place and we raided the cellar. Didn't get to Flora, Madness Vertical or CD5-9 but we did start with 2 Ls of Amarillo and Harland before we even opened any bottles:

I like that pup. He hopped in my car once.

 

[tehzachatak]

I like that pup. He hopped in my car once.

Charlie is my single favorite personality I have ever encountered at Hill Farmstead.

 

[SeaWatchman]

Charlie is my single favorite personality I have ever encountered at Hill Farmstead.

Yah but will he eventually be a Porter or a Golden Ale?

 

[Wagon Circler]

Is flora w cherry going to be released or is that strictly for the dandelion crew. I'm not sure what answer I'm hoping for.

 

[tehzachatak]

Yah but will eventually be a Porter or a Golden Ale?

Lambic.

 

[tehzachatak]

Is flora w cherry going to be released or is that strictly for the dandelion crew. I'm not sure what answer I'm hoping for.

I have heard from a reputable source that all four bottles produced were consumed yesterday. Oh well!

 

[Wagon Circler]

Yah but will eventually be a Porter or a Golden Ale?

You bastard

 

[SeaWatchman]

Lambic.

 

[tehzachatak]

Sorry, lambic aged on dandelions

 

[Respirologist]

I have heard from a reputable source that all four bottles produced were consumed yesterday. Oh well!

Only 4 bottles produced ? Or more waiting to be bottled?

 

[tehzachatak]

Only 4 bottles produced ? Or more waiting to be bottled?

Sorry, this was a joke. Guess I'm doing as bad a job of cluttering this thread up as anyone.

 

[oilcan1]

Sorry, this was a joke.