HELP! I forgot to add the milk!

[pondlumber]

So I made this beer last weekend:

5gal
7lb MO
1lb Crystal 60
0.5lb Sp B
0.25 Roasted
1.5lb rolled oats

0.5oz Brewer's gold @ 60min
0.5oz Fuggle @ 5min

Using WLP002

I was going to add a half gal of milk after the boil but I forgot! Is it too late a week later?

 

[Randy_Bugger]

Consider it a blessing in disguise.

 

[pondlumber]

Consider it a blessing in disguise.

So you're saying it's better to add it late?

 

[Randy_Bugger]

So you're saying it's better to add it late?

No, I'm saying adding milk to a beer would be a disaster.

I think you are looking for lactose sugar. You can still add it to the fermenter, but you should boil it in a little water and cool it before you do.

 

[pondlumber]

No, I'm saying adding milk to a beer would be a disaster.

I think you are looking for lactose sugar. You can still add it to the fermenter, but you should boil it in a little water and cool it before you do.

Crap, I just dumped it in. It's pasteurized so it's like I boiled it.

 

[azscoob]

I think the trick to adding milk to the fermenter is make sure it isn't pasteurized, it's gotta be right from the tap so to speak, and it needs to be added in small amounts following a rather complex schedule so as not to overdo it with the lactose or it will taste..... Well off.

I prefer adding a heaping dollop of cottage cheese to my pint glass instead of fermenting in the carboy, this does two things:

1) it eases cleanup of your equipment.

2) it is a great way to add that " aged with milk" flavor you are seeking in half the time! :rockin:

 

[pondlumber]

It's skim so the fat doesn't mess up the head, what's this lactose sugar thing?

 

[stpug]

Skims the best kind. I'm sure you're fine

 

[pondlumber]

I think the trick to adding milk to the fermenter is make sure it isn't pasteurized, it's gotta be right from the tap so to speak, and it needs to be added in small amounts following a rather complex schedule so as not to overdo it with the lactose or it will taste..... Well off.

I prefer adding a heaping dollop of cottage cheese to my pint glass instead of fermenting in the carboy, this does two things:

1) it eases cleanup of your equipment.

2) it is a great way to add that " aged with milk" flavor you are seeking in half the time! :rockin:

Wow, that's some really great advice, it really makes sense, but I never would have thought of that. Thanks!

I'd really like to make some of the "real deal" stuff. I know it's kinda gross, but my wife is lactating, how much do you add at a time?

 

[azscoob]

It's skim so the fat doesn't mess up the head, what's this lactose sugar thing?

I think it's what big companies use instead of real cane sugar in soda pop.

 

[pondlumber]

I think it's what big companies use instead of real cane sugar in soda pop.

So can I just add some boiled ginger ale?

 

[Randy_Bugger]

If you really want to add milk to your beer, you should get your hands on some horse milk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis

 

[sivispacemparabe11um]

Wow, that's some really great advice, it really makes sense, but I never would have thought of that. Thanks!

I'd really like to make some of the "real deal" stuff. I know it's kinda gross, but my wife is lactating, how much do you add at a time?

Whoa ......wait.....what?!??? Please don't!!!


Be careful not to end up in the same situation as this fellow brewer....
https://www.homebrewtalk.com/f35/straining-filtering-beer-after-its-been-kegged-carbed-427933/

 

[pondlumber]

If you really want to add milk to your beer, you should get your hands on some horse milk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumis

I'd like to try making that some time, but I don't have a horse. I'm just trying to make a simple milk stout here.

 

[pondlumber]

Now that I've added the 1/2gal of skim to this, can I sill add some raw milk?

 

[ma_duece_brew]

Might help to reboil the thing with a few teaspoons of vinegar to get the casein to clump for a cleaner product. Plus you can use it as a glue for your labels

 

[Randy_Bugger]

I'd like to try making that some time, but I don't have a horse. I'm just trying to make a simple milk stout here.

Milk stouts use lactose sugar, not milk.

There isn't a single beer for sale in the civilized world that uses milk.

 

[Randy_Bugger]

Now that we have that cleared up, did you really put milk in your beer or are you trolling?

 

[ma_duece_brew]

Now that we have that cleared up, did you really put milk in your beer or are you trolling?

BILK! Beer + Milk
http://www.japanprobe.com/2007/01/31/milk-beer-bilk/

 

[pondlumber]

Now that we have that cleared up, did you really put milk in your beer or are you trolling?

Well yeah, is it really that odd?

Edit: I'm not tolling, I had to look up what that meant, sorry.

 

[Randy_Bugger]

I stand corrected. Effing crazy Japanese!

They have Pepsi flavored Fritos there too.

 

[pondlumber]

The milk got kind of chunky since I put it in. I wish I had a working camera, something seems wrong. Maybe I added too much at once?

 

[Randy_Bugger]

Well yeah, is it really that odd?

Yes, it's very unusual. It's not the way milk stouts are made.

 

[sivispacemparabe11um]

This is the second post in two days with milk related issues I must be missing something.......

 

[Randy_Bugger]

Protip: Cream Ale does not contain cream.

 

[501irishred]

I'd really like to make some of the "real deal" stuff. I know it's kinda gross, but my wife is lactating, how much do you add at a time?

Nice! You sir are sick and perverse............I like it!

 

[ceannt]

Protip: Cream Ale does not contain cream.

Now you tell me .......

 

[boydster]

The milk got kind of chunky since I put it in. I wish I had a working camera, something seems wrong. Maybe I added too much at once?

Yes, something is very wrong: There is milk in your beer.

 

[sivispacemparabe11um]

Pondlumber,
Where did you get the idea of using milk from. Just curious where the milk in beer thing is coming from...

 

[Evan_L]

I'm reading this and picturing a first time brewer with a milk stout kit who is wondering why their kit didn't come with the milk...so they figured they have some in the fridge...just gotta google milk addition...then they stumble upon this thread...and.....

 

[dgr]

Why do you need a camera? Just use a paint program and draw a picture of what you are seeing.

 

[jakenbacon]

this thread = LOL.....

 

[pondlumber]

this thread = LOL.....

Really, this isn't a joke, I'm worried I messed up my beer by adding the milk wrong.

 

[BeerGrylls]

The only thing left is to wait and see. But honestly, I thought this was a joke. I had to remember if it was April 1 or not. At least I had a good laugh.

 

[sivispacemparabe11um]

The only thing left is to wait and see. But honestly, I thought this was a joke. I had to remember if it was April 1 or not. At least I had a good laugh.

Click the link I posted on the second page there is some bad info going around I guess..

 

[boydster]

Really, this isn't a joke, I'm worried I messed up my beer by adding the milk wrong.

Let me put your fears to rest. You did mess up. You should not have added milk. Instead you should have added lactose, that is the defining, sweet, "milky" flavor of a milk stout. The milk will likely curdle in the beer. There are fats and proteins in milk as well as other things in suspension along with the lactose, most of which you do not want in your beer. For the love of R2D2, please use lactose next time, you will be happy you did.

 

[butterpants]

This thread is awesome

 

[pondlumber]

I'm not sure if this picture will work, but I pulled a sample. It's doing a crazy foam thing and there are little chunks everywhere in it. I can't even get a real SG on it because it's so foamy.

 

[Chadwick]

You might be able to save this beer yet by placing it in milk jugs and setting it out in the sun for at least 6 weeks prior to bottling. Be sure to taste a sample before bottling. It it tastes good, then you are golden. If not, call the EPA and ask them to clean it up for you.

 

[pondlumber]

Let me put your fears to rest. You did mess up. You should not have added milk. Instead you should have added lactose, that is the defining, sweet, "milky" flavor of a milk stout. The milk will likely curdle in the beer. There are fats and proteins in milk as well as other things in suspension along with the lactose, most of which you do not want in your beer. For the love of R2D2, please use lactose next time, you will be happy you did.

I used skim so no fat and the proteins should settle out with aging, I understand that gelatine, Irish moss or the like might be needed if I want to drink this in the next two months.