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resurecting an old thread:
I have brewed edworts recipe 2 times prior to having oxygen and yeast starters. I have just brewed JZ's hefe recipe, essentially the standard for style. but I was afraid of having the same outcome of my 1st two attempts. 1st attempt was too warm and, I agree, off flavors assoc. with warm ferment are not desirable at all. 2nd time I used wyeast again but fermented at 68 temp. It was still missing something.

the latest attempt I did a decoction mash, and had 25% munich, bumped up the wheat, and fermented at 62. I pitched at 62 and kept it steady, mashed at 152 I believe, and used proper pitching rates. the beer is a little thin, probably because my first decoction mash lead to too long of a protein rest. I get aroma of banana slightly, but no taste of it. I wanted to add richness which is my reason for decoction and munich, but it still seems lacking. I am drinking this fresh out of a keg, the beer is not green, but is weak.

living near the HB in newport KY I get to try their hefe frequently. Very rich, pleasnt balance of clove and banana. I miss it every time.

I think I need to move to another yeast. wheiphenstephen the 1st two attempts and WL300 the 3rd. I am tempted to abandon the style. any suggestions to make a knockout hefe would be appreciated as now I have 35 lbs of wheat I am scrambling to find a use for. weisenbock will most likely be next.

It could be very well my commercial example im referring to doesnt represent the style well, and that I am misunderstanding it to be a poor brew on my part, when in fact it came out as expected (per style)
 
I just brewed a batch two days ago myself, 50/50 malted wheat/pilsner plus .25lb of melanoidin malt, into primary at 62F with Wyeast 3068. Was playing with the idea of waiting another 24 hours and boosting ferment temps into the mid 60's. Has anyone ever manipulated this yeast this way, and what came of it if you did?
 
Just got to taste my latest batch of hefe a couple weeks ago cold and carbonated...just over 50% german pilsner with balance being German wheat. Step mashed using boiling water as a decoction was not possible for that brew day. Fermented with wlp300 @ 70 degrees. The bananas are very prominent both in nose and taste. Have made virtually the same beer with fermentis dry wheat option with completely different results. Good beer but no bananas like I was looking for.
 
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