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ohiobrewtus
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eriktlupus is now on the clock for the Raiders
HBT NFL mock draft '10
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dataz722
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they already traded quinn
And signed about 80000 other QBs since then.
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ohiobrewtus
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With the long weekend coming up I wanted to remind everyone that if you see that it's your turn to make a selection, but you haven't gotten a PM from me, by all means make the pick. I'll update the OP when I have a chance.
I'm not going to be available a good portion of this weekend to check, post updates and send PM notifications, so don't hold up the draft waiting for me.
I'm not going to be available a good portion of this weekend to check, post updates and send PM notifications, so don't hold up the draft waiting for me.
long weekend?
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ohiobrewtus
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Ya, Good Friday. Some may have to work tomorrow, but I don't.
o... nice! I have monday off... that just because im lazy
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Whoopsthey already traded quinn
Guess I should pay more attention to my home town sports.
Craig
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ohiobrewtus
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In case I'm not around to check the board tomorrow morning, here's what I see as options for the Raiders given our board (go ahead and vote as a group if eriktlupus doesn't happen to respond by 10:03 am on Friday)
By the time that the draft rolls around, the whole Donovan McNabb to the Raiders thing will be settled. McNabb has no interest in going to the Raiders, so I just don't see that happening. This brings Clausen into the fray for them. JaMarcus Russell is quite possibly a bigger bust than Ryan Leaf, and it's time to move on. Will Creepy Al Davis be able to pull the trigger here, knowing that there's a big drop off after Clausen?
As I mentioned earlier, my other choice for them is reaching for Jason Pierre-Paul.
By the time that the draft rolls around, the whole Donovan McNabb to the Raiders thing will be settled. McNabb has no interest in going to the Raiders, so I just don't see that happening. This brings Clausen into the fray for them. JaMarcus Russell is quite possibly a bigger bust than Ryan Leaf, and it's time to move on. Will Creepy Al Davis be able to pull the trigger here, knowing that there's a big drop off after Clausen?
As I mentioned earlier, my other choice for them is reaching for Jason Pierre-Paul.
eriktlupus
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i'm gonnna play al davis and his wags here and say my pick for the raiders in the 1st rd of the 2010 draft will be colt mccoy!
i really never thought very much of clausen anyway. think he gets his hype from being from dame and we all know how well the last QB from there has done in the nfl. colt however has been running a winning program for 4 yrs and if he wasn't hurt in the game i think texas would have been the champs. yes i know he's been an almost exclusive shotgun QB and there is still some worries about his shoulder but my gut tells me he'll have a more productive career than clausen.
i really never thought very much of clausen anyway. think he gets his hype from being from dame and we all know how well the last QB from there has done in the nfl. colt however has been running a winning program for 4 yrs and if he wasn't hurt in the game i think texas would have been the champs. yes i know he's been an almost exclusive shotgun QB and there is still some worries about his shoulder but my gut tells me he'll have a more productive career than clausen.
Is Al Davis really ready to throw the towel in on JaMarcus, though? He's a tool, he just showed up to workouts weighing close to three bills, but I don't see Davis wanting to completely change gears, since I don't see Clausen having the gun that Al Davis wants. Seems that he's apt to have success in a timing/West Coast-style offense rather than in the vertical game that the Raiders always want.
They really need some help on the offensive line. I've seen some drafts with them picking Trent Williams, but that ain't sexy.
Seems to me the most likely outcome is a trade for McNabb, maybe with Philly sending back a lower pick in addition to Donovan. I'd say we assume a trade and we pick for Philly.
They really need some help on the offensive line. I've seen some drafts with them picking Trent Williams, but that ain't sexy.
Seems to me the most likely outcome is a trade for McNabb, maybe with Philly sending back a lower pick in addition to Donovan. I'd say we assume a trade and we pick for Philly.
I just don't see McNabb waiving his no trade to go there....
Me either. I think the Vikes might make a last second move if Favre finally calls it quits, but with McNabb still in contract and people asking a pick for him, I just don't see it. Next year he's unrestricted and can go wherever he wants without a team having to pay the pick.
well thats why they are gonna trade him for a high 2nd round pick...I also dont see him going to Minny, as Favre wont make up his mind in time. I think he ends up in STL or KC.
Well, when I said Minnesota, I really meant in July. Definitely not before the draft...
Ah, didn't realize McNabb had a no-trade clause.
Favre's not making a "decision" until after training camp, same as he does every year. He prolongs this crap intentionally so that he avoids two-a-days. Unless Minny wants to walk away from the Favre experiment, I don't see how they trade for McNabb.
As to the Raiders, if they aren't convincing McNabb to come aboard, I say the logical thing for them to do is to select the best available offensive lineman.
This conversation does make me feel better; McNabb on the Raiders means the Pat's 2011 pick is not nearly as valuable as it would be otherwise.
Favre's not making a "decision" until after training camp, same as he does every year. He prolongs this crap intentionally so that he avoids two-a-days. Unless Minny wants to walk away from the Favre experiment, I don't see how they trade for McNabb.
As to the Raiders, if they aren't convincing McNabb to come aboard, I say the logical thing for them to do is to select the best available offensive lineman.
This conversation does make me feel better; McNabb on the Raiders means the Pat's 2011 pick is not nearly as valuable as it would be otherwise.
Then again...this is Al Davis and the Raiders we're talking about. Have you known anyone in the Raiders organization (or fandom) to be logical?
Well, that's the thing. Is our goal here to predict how teams WILL draft, or how they SHOULD draft?
I went with "should" when I picked for the skins.
I think its kinda a mix! we go with should...unless you KNOW they will **** it up, like the raiders
Raiders gave up 49 sacks last year, third-worst in the league (despite having among the fewest pass attempts per game; Pitt and Green Bay gave up a couple more sacks, but they passed the ball 4/5 times more per game). Doesn't matter who the QB is until they fix that. Might help improve the rushing numbers, too.
They also gave up a lot of rushing yards. Some help on the DL wouldn't be a bad thing, but the biggest weakness still seems to be on the offensive line (and at QB, but I don't think Clausen makes sense here and none of the other QBs seems worth the #8 pick).
They also gave up a lot of rushing yards. Some help on the DL wouldn't be a bad thing, but the biggest weakness still seems to be on the offensive line (and at QB, but I don't think Clausen makes sense here and none of the other QBs seems worth the #8 pick).
well... weve had mccoy picked... so oh well
but I agree with you. that being said... Oakland is a joke, so whatever
but I agree with you. that being said... Oakland is a joke, so whatever
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ohiobrewtus
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Colt McCoy? I knew Al Davis is crazy, but I'm not quite sure that he THAT crazy.
bird, you're up for the Bills.
bird, you're up for the Bills.
With the 9th pick in the 2010 HomeBrewTalk.com NFL Draft, the Buffalo Bills select.....
Dan Williams, defensive tackle from Tennessee.
Bills need a QB, but not sold on Clausen. Need someone with some zip on the ball. They may look to take a chance on Tebow, but not this early.
Bills biggest need right now is a stud in the middle of the defensive line. Switching to a 3-4 D under Chan Gailey, and they don't really have a good, BIG defensive lineman to man the middle. He's listed at about 327#, pretty good (although not extreme) size for playing the NT spot.
#9 seems to be a little high for him, but he seems to be considered the best NT prospect in the draft and that's what Buffalo needs, especially with how medicore their rush D has been.
Dan Williams, defensive tackle from Tennessee.
Bills need a QB, but not sold on Clausen. Need someone with some zip on the ball. They may look to take a chance on Tebow, but not this early.
Bills biggest need right now is a stud in the middle of the defensive line. Switching to a 3-4 D under Chan Gailey, and they don't really have a good, BIG defensive lineman to man the middle. He's listed at about 327#, pretty good (although not extreme) size for playing the NT spot.
#9 seems to be a little high for him, but he seems to be considered the best NT prospect in the draft and that's what Buffalo needs, especially with how medicore their rush D has been.
dataz722
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Now they just need it at every other spot on the field.
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ohiobrewtus
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Solid pick for the Bills, bird.
As for the Browns getting Sheldon Brown, that certainly helps them, but they *still* need secondary help.
As for the Browns getting Sheldon Brown, that certainly helps them, but they *still* need secondary help.
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ohiobrewtus
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Jacksonville selects Derrick Morgan, DE, Georgia Tech. This not only happens to be one of their top needs after former 1st round pick Derrick Harvey out of Florida hasn't been able to produce, but Morgan present a great value at #10.
gartj is on the clock for the Denver Broncos
gartj is on the clock for the Denver Broncos
My pick is looking less and less likely for the Browns.
Still Haden it alot less likely to be a bust than Clausen.
Craig
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ohiobrewtus
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A recent quote from Holmgren on Clausen - "I wish I liked him more". It was on profootballtalk.com within the last couple weeks. I just don't see the Browns taking Clausen with their 1st. Now if Colt McCoy is there for them in the 2nd, that makes a bit more sense. They really need to help out that defense in the 1st round.
They have also stated they are "definitely not taking a QB with their first round pick" which makes me think more and more they will. Seems like all the teams try to throw out some misdirection before the draft.
But you are right defensive help would be a good thing. And now their "biggest" impact player (Shaun Rodgers) is in jail.
Don't these players have 2 brain cells to run together.
Seems every day another one of them get in the news for completely idiotic reasons.
Rodgers for trying to carry a loaded 45 onto a plane!!!!
