Hazy/Juicy/NEIPA

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Thanks for the advice! I may need to do just that. I’ve done a little bit of beer swaps with cigar buddies.

Question though, my understanding is no one is willing to knowingly ship beer. I’ve gone to UPS and when they ask what it is I tell them it is various yeast samples and all has been well, though I’ve had puzzled looks a couple of times. Is this basically what others here are doing?

Don't ask, don't tell, and lie.Try Koy Pond samples...

 

[rodwha]

Don't ask, don't tell, and lie.Try Koy Pond samples...

Koy Pond samples? What is this you speak of?

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Koy Pond samples? What is this you speak of?

Sorry Koi Pond samples. We had a crazy trade shipping year in 2018. Several of us got nailed. After, one guy used Koi pond samples being asked for the contents AFTER getting nailed. It didn't fly of course. I can't send through FedEx anymore myself.

 

[ThirstyPawsHB]

Read through this for our hell year. Teaching point ship ice packs in the summer.

https://www.homebrewtalk.com/forum/index.php?threads/655881/

 

[rodwha]

I feel this is one of a few excellently done beers for the style:

where is the nearest comerica bank

Sometimes I’ve felt that some brewers have been too fixated on the hazy that they lost sight of the hoppy, and the product is muddied. And/or the hops flavors are just muted. Not so with this one and a few others. I really like what they produced!

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

there are all kinds of ways to make a hazy beer, to keep it simple I've come up with a very good one, you can up the alcohol for this but the beer is spot on for flavor, but keep in mind I have a micro brewery pilot system with a built in whirlpool and that is the key

https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/839665/session-hopfest-ipa/287378

 

[Jag75]

@rodwha - that is a good NEIPA . I like there beers . Have you tried their #13 ? Its wonderful.

 

[Dgallo]

there are all kinds of ways to make a hazy beer, to keep it simple I've come up with a very good one, you can up the alcohol for this but the beer is spot on for flavor, but keep in mind I have a micro brewery pilot system with a built in whirlpool and that is the key

https://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/839665/session-hopfest

I’m not quite sure why you would be adding extract to the recipe when you could easily bump your pale malts and incorporate specialty malts like honey malt, c10-40, or caramunich if you so choose, though these are only usually used for color not the flavor profile so they are typically used at 2-5%.

The key to bright hopping is not a Wh vessel, though you will get better extraction with constant agitation or movement, the key for bright hop flavor and aroma is minimizing oxygen exposure post active fermentation. Even minimal oxygen intake will mute the hops and ruin a great hopping schedule.

I would suggest reviewing this thread and reading it all if you have time or at least the last 20 pages. https://www.homebrewtalk.com/forum/threads/northeast-style-ipa.568046/

 

[Ozarks Mountain Brewery]

I think you made my point, many ways to create any beer, there is no write or wrong way to brew beer and I only used what I had and it turned out great

 

[wepeeler]

I feel this is one of a few excellently done beers for the style:

where is the nearest comerica bank

Sometimes I’ve felt that some brewers have been too fixated on the hazy that they lost sight of the hoppy, and the product is muddied. And/or the hops flavors are just muted. Not so with this one and a few others. I really like what they produced!

That's a very well done commercial neipa that can stand being shipped across country. It's also a very safe neipa ie kind bland for the style. Not too hoppy, not too bitter, not too sweet. "Well balanced". I would venture to say it's not a complex recipe, but they're able to keep out O2, therefore stabilizing shelf life.

The neipas I try to make aren't nearly as safe. But, I'm not trying to make beer for the masses.

 

[VirginiaHops1]

I didn't like Firestone's Mind Haze much. Tasted too tart. It almost seemed like they didn't want to fully commit to the super juicy NEIPA style so made it kind of juicy(tart) and bitter. I guess that was their take on the style. I like both styles but I want my west coast IPAs bitter and piney/citrus and my NEIPAs super saturated with hop flavors. There's a lot of bad NEIPAs out there. I've realized that even more since I've started making them and I like so many commercial varieties less than mine.

 

[rodwha]

I didn't like Firestone's Mind Haze much. Tasted too tart. It almost seemed like they didn't want to fully commit to the super juicy NEIPA style so made it kind of juicy(tart) and bitter. I guess that was their take on the style. I like both styles but I want my west coast IPAs bitter and piney/citrus and my NEIPAs super saturated with hop flavors. There's a lot of bad NEIPAs out there. I've realized that even more since I've started making them and I like so many commercial varieties less than mine.

I’m surprised you find it bitter.

 

[VirginiaHops1]

I’m surprised you find it bitter.

Not extremely bitter, just something about it was off too me. The best Hazy/NEIPAs I've had in Virginia from Veil, Triple Crossing, Ocelot etc have virtually no bitterness yet also aren't overly sweet. Just soft, juicy hop saturation. Mind Haze was far from that to me. But like I said there's lots of very mediocre ones out there now since their popularity has exploded and every brewery is trying to do one.

 

[Monmouth00]

I'm not big on hoppy beer, but wanted to brew a crowd-pleaser. I asked a buddy to help me build a recipe for an east coast-meets-west coast IPA, and added some grapefruit. Everyone who's tasted it loves it.

It was an extract, so I clouded it up with some flaked wheat in the steep.

I did a full 60 minute boil with Cascade. We added lactose for a more juicy mouthfeel. Then added more Cascade and Mosaic at flameout.

Two weeks in the primary before I added the grapefruit puree, then another 10 days to flavor.

Force-carbed and on tap now. Thirsty just thinking about how well it turned out!