Has anyone grown Neomexicana hops?

[marc_]

Any updates for 2018?

I've been growing Neo1 for 5 plus years and they're thriving up in Canada.

 

[bpgreen]

I planted a neo1 and a willow creek this spring. The willow creek only grew about 2 feet tall. The neo1 grew to about 6 feet and has a bunch of tiny (about pea sized) cones on it. I don't know if they'll even be harvestable before we get a frost.

 

[Texconsinite]

I moved up to WI last Oct, and sadly none of my hops (neomex or otherwise) survived the winter, so I had to start over with varieties better suited for midwest

 

[Apimyces]

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I see one of our sponsors is setting up Pre orders. Got me thinking of they do well where I live.

Neomexicana is a true American hop. Not transplanted from Europe.

So far on my Google searches, the variants are Multi head, Neo1, Amallia, and Willow Creek.

Multi is peachy. Neo1 is lemon/citrus and Amallia is earthy.

I am willing to buy a few to test out. I am wondering if anyone else planted them.​

Nuh uh! Lupuloides is the true American hop!

 

[Texconsinite]

Neo1 is supposed to be lemony. Mine died before any birds emerged. It seemed more delicate and finicky, needs more total sun to flourish than others varieties.

Multiheadd grew huge. My cones smelled pleasant like juicy fruit gum. It only produced ok, considering I had it 13ft up an old telephone pole.

Willow creek seemed good, but only had it 1 season. Got a small yield which is still dried and frozen, haven’t brewed with it yet.

 

[marc_]

My Neo1 is quite lemony. It's subtle though - not as pungent as my centennial growing next to it.

It's a smaller bine, but just packed with long cones.

 

[marc_]

Comparing the smell of my freshly dried neo1 hops to my freshly dried centennial...

Neo1 is full of citrus - more orange/tangerine or orange blossom than lemon this year. No real grapefruit, pine, herbal or dank notes. Just subtle fruit. Smells delicious.

Centennial is more pungent, but less fruity. It's got some grapefruit/citrus but lots of pungent hoppiness with some herbal pine notes.

 

[marc_]

Does anyone have neomexicanus seeds?

 

[Sylvain]

@Marc, you can look at the USDA website.

Hello guys! Generally speaking, adult neomexicanus plants, how much do they measure ?

 

[njviking]

They found the plants in New Mexico / Colorado region.

High elevation, extreme hot and cold seasons. I am guessing dry and humid conditions as well.

Only one that I cannot find is multi head hop. I hope a vendor will sell that rhizome. A peach flavored hop. Sounds yummy.have.

I planted one of these 2 years ago when it was released with a sorrachi ace plant,. Both grow like crazy and the multihead far out performs anyothe varities I have planted. I had to double crutch it in fear of the line breaking. As far as the taste. 1st year was awful, second was interesting but within line of the stonefruit danky notes. This year hopefully she'll play nice and settle down.

 

[Sylvain]

Neomexicanus

 

[Sylvain]

 

[Sylvain]

Neomexicanus 2003-OJ-03

Neomexicanus with Brewer's Gold x Lupuloids

 

[Sylvain]

 

[Sierra brew club]

Hello Nagmay, I've asked the USDA on numerous occasions for both seed and rhizomes of native North American hops, but they have never sent me anything.

I am trying to collect male plants for breeding purposes. If you could send me some seeds or rhizomes I would greatly appreciate it.

If anybody could send me some male hop rhizomes I would be more then willing send back my hybrid rhizomes in the case that I am successful in crossbreeding the hops.

I would be willing to make the same deal with some folks on here.

I have seeds I will start this winter. Move them out to a green house next spring and then ship them away to be planted (offsite) at the small experimental hop yard (we are currently building) until they can be sexed.

I have a neighbor who will take any males for future use for breeding. (He lives close to a mile down river) I am in Hope's that this is far enough away from my own hops as not to open pollination. All of my hop yard...

If I can acquire a few males for pollinating I would send seed or Rhizomes from those crosses.

Or any of the 88 varieties that we are propagating in the main 1/4 acre hop yard.

Let me know if this can happen this year or next spring!

I am currently looking into a permit for importation
Small Lots of Seed from USDA.
at the moment it is looking like this winter would be the very soonish.

 

[Sierra brew club]

Current Hops list for 2019 with some late fall entries (moms for eventual breeding program)
1 Arcadian
2 Walhalla
3 Prussian
4 Petoskey
5 Hartwick
6 Saugatuck
7 Old Mission
8 Lawton
9 Shaddock
10 Diamond Springs(Not Released yet)
11. AlphAroma (Rakau)
12. Amalia
13. Bitter Gold
14. Bodhi Zapus (named from mining town it came from and point break movie)
15. Bramling Cross
16. Brewers Gold
17. Canadian Red Vine
18. Canterbury Golding
19. Cascade
20. Cashmere
21. Centennial
22. Chinook
23. California Cluster (Still searching)
24. Cluster (early)
25. Cluster (late)
26. Collegiate ( Found on creek behind local Jr College )
27. Columbia
28. Columbus
29. Comet
30. Crystal
31. Eroica
32. Fuggles
33. Galena
34. Gargoyle (under negotiation )
35. Glacier
36. Golding (US)
37. Hallertauer
38. Horizon
39. Ivanhoe (under negotiation)
40. Kent Golding
41. Kinsman Flat (Calling it homesteader in honor of mr Kinsman who brought it to the area)
42. Kirin 2
43. Liberty
44. Lubelska-Pulawy (* Friend I served with from Poland)
45. Lublin (friend from Poland)
46. Magnum
47. Marynka (friend from Poland)
48. Mt. Hood
49. Mt. Rainier
50. Multi-head (Medusa)
51. Neo 1
52. Newport
53. Northern Brewer
54. Nugget
55. Olympic
56. Oregon Cluster
57. Pacific gem
58. Perle
59. Pocket Talisman
60. Pride of Ringwood
61. Saazer
62. Saazer 72
63. Santiam
64. Spalter select
65. Serbriaka
66. Sorachi Ace
67. Southern Brewer
68. Southern Cross
69. Star
70. Sterling
71. Syrian Golding
72. Summit (searching for)
73. Sunbeam
74. Super Alpha (Dr. Rudi)
75. Super Galena (still searching for this varietal)
76. Super Saaz
77. Tahoma
78. Tea Maker
79. Tettnanger
80. Triple Perle
81. Triumph (receiveing this fall from Sandy)
82. Ultra
83. Vanguard
84. Vajvodina
85. Willamette
86. Willow Creek
87. Wawona ( A species found growing on an old hotel in Yosemite )
88. Wye Challenger
89. Wye Viking
90. Yakima gold
91. Yeoman
92. Zatecki Cerveni
93. Zenith
94. Zeus

Willing to trade for males, dwarf species, or any hop with interesting flavors that are not currently growing here.

 

[Sylvain]

Current Hops list for 2019 with some late fall entries (moms for eventual breeding program)

Willing to trade for males, dwarf species, or any hop with interesting flavors that are not currently growing here.

I have about 80 germinated Neomexicanus (USDA) babies this year.
I have several young plants that show flowers.
and I already have a male.
you have so many varieties that interest me !!!


"je possède environ 80 bébés Neomexicanus (de l'USDA) germés de cette année.
j'ai plusieurs jeunes plants qui montrent des fleurs.
et j'ai déjà un mâle.
vous avez tellement de variétés qui m'intéresse"

 

[Sylvain]

 

[Sierra brew club]

Little boy parts
Excellent
You were the first one on my list!!

I feel like the off season when things cool off here after the harvest we should talk again!!

I will be getting a few more varieties this fall Triumph is the one i am most excited about as well some plants coming in from England and Poland.

 

[Sylvain]

 

[pietowndude]

These are pictures I took a few minutes ago of one of my Neomexicanus fields. These are all Neomexicanus, no idea how many accessions. 1,2,3,4 and 5th year growth, we have been adding to the collection for 5 years. Our DNA lab will be arriving in November. That should help greatly with identification. Then we plan to brew 2.5 gallon single hop batches using a session IPA recipe with our Zymatic PicoBrew system throughout the winter to determine brewing characteristics of each hop. I'm really curious about the vines that starting starting out Raspberry colored. They are late forming. I haven't seen this before. And my luck is changing, at least in this field. Only one hermaphrodite out of 450. Better odds than last year.

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[Dave Sarber]

Just ran across this thread. Sounds like the ideal hop for southern Arizona's high desert country. Found a dormant crown (Neo1) from Great Lakes hops. Will see what happens.

 

[pietowndude]

I planted NEO 1's, Amalia and Multihead this past spring on my property in New Mexico at about 7700 feet elevation. The NEO's have done well I think. Once they got to about 4 feet tall the elk started eating the leaves. So this winter I need to fence as best I can. I get up to my place about every 2 weeks to water and give each plant about 5 gallons. We have not had much rain this summer. I planted both rhizomes and plants. Both seemed to grow about the same in height. Then the elk get them.

The Multihead grew to 10 feet or more, with the cow elk eating the leaves around 4-5 feet, the bines were not damaged and the plants kept growing and grew more leaves above about 6 feet or so.

I grew Willow Creeks down in Las Cruces, NM they had small cones but grew to 8 feet or so. The 2 NEO's I grew here in Las Cruces had small cones too but the plants grew about 8 feet also.

So now I have some hops and need to make some brew. Just need to experiment with a recipe. Hoping that these hops will work to make an IPA

 

[pietowndude]

The top 2 pictures above are NEO's from my place up north. The bottom 2 pictures are from the Willow Creeks in Las Cruces.

Hopefully next year will be better as I learn more about how to grow these

 

[Dave Sarber]

Well, my climate is just about identical to Las Cruces, so if they do all right there, they should be fine here (about 30 miles NW of Tucson), USDA zone 9.

Was just looking at Great Lakes website, considering some of those Willow Creeks myself.

 

[Sylvain]

 

[corkybstewart]

The top 2 pictures above are NEO's from my place up north. The bottom 2 pictures are from the Willow Creeks in Las Cruces.

Hopefully next year will be better as I learn more about how to grow these

I moved from Carlsbad(elev 3100') to Silver City (elev 6200') and brought all my hops crowns with me-mostly Cascade, Centennial and Magnum but I also had 2 Neo's. The soil around here is not suitable, even though the climate is. Everything I've planted here has died within a month, including about 60 hops crowns. So now I have to decide whether to take a small piece of our property and totally rework the soil from scratch to grow some hops.

 

[Dave Sarber]

^^^Thought about raised beds?

 

[pietowndude]

I moved from Carlsbad(elev 3100') to Silver City (elev 6200') and brought all my hops crowns with me-mostly Cascade, Centennial and Magnum but I also had 2 Neo's. The soil around here is not suitable, even though the climate is. Everything I've planted here has died within a month, including about 60 hops crowns. So now I have to decide whether to take a small piece of our property and totally rework the soil from scratch to grow some hops.

I dug holes for each of my 20 hop rhizomes and plants. I used bagged steer manure from Lowes and mixed it with mulch from under the cedar and pinion trees on my property and soil from the holes I dug. 4 out of 16 rhizomes did not come up. My mixture was approximately 50%manure, 25% mulch from under cedar trees and pinion pines and 25% local soil.

 

[corkybstewart]

T

^^^Thought about raised beds?

That's what I use for my garden, but hops rhyzomes grow enormous. I have a pic somewhere of a 5 year old Cascade that completely fills an adult sized lawn chair. That's not the answer for 40 or 50 hops plants.