Has anyone ever bought a commercial beer this this much yeast?

[paulster2626]

I once had someone much more knowledgeable than myself say they suspected the consistant off flavour in Trafalgar's products were from a persistent infection in the brewery. It's something I agreed with, having tried a few of their beers.

To be clear, I'm not here to slag on any of our local craft brewers -- Ontario needs more of them! -- but man, there's some I just won't waste my dollars on.

So who could it be then? Can't be any of the more well-known ones like Mill St., Flying Monkeys, Amsterdam, etc.

Gotta be something low-key. How do I find a local brewery with an unfiltered IIPA on the menu? Hmmm....

I actually wouldn't mind if you did PM me the brewery actually. Beer in Ontario is pretty pricey as you know, and I would like to know where to better redirect my money. I'd rather support the guys who take their jobs and products seriously.

 

[paulster2626]

Was it Nickelbrook Headstock - it's new, comes in a can, so you wouldn't know until it's too late.

Wait you said bottle... damn this is tough. But fun.

 

[paulster2626]

Beaver River IPA from Beau's. HAS to be.

Available at every LCBO I've seen, have been ramping up production lately, bottles are big enough to fill that glass of yours, beer is unfiltered.

Only thing is these people are very nice and seem to take pride in their work. Also Vankleek Hill isn't exactly "local". The search continues...

 

[jspence1]

I really can't think of any other breweries that it would be.

Neustadt maybe? But I've never seen a IIPA from them


Are any of you Toronto people part of the SOB group?

 

[Geordan]

Not Beau's, that's for sure -- if there's any Ontario brewery I'm fiercely loyal to, it's them

 

[paulster2626]

I really can't think of any other breweries that it would be.

Neustadt maybe? But I've never seen a IIPA from them


Are any of you Toronto people part of the SOB group?

You will find I post there under the wildly different username of "paulster2626".

I'll be @ Amsterdam tomorrow evening. Getting my grains, and will be open to the suggestion of grabbing a beer somewhere since the wife is out and I'm freeeeee!!!

 

[jspence1]

Beaver River IPA from Beau's. HAS to be.

Available at every LCBO I've seen, have been ramping up production lately, bottles are big enough to fill that glass of yours, beer is unfiltered.

Only thing is these people are very nice and seem to take pride in their work. Also Vankleek Hill isn't exactly "local". The search continues...

No chance it was beau's they would fall over themselves to fix it. I had a bottle that wasn't that great and was chatting with them at one of the beer festivals and he asked me to send him the lot number so they could look into it

 

[ReverseApacheMaster]

It was Molson, wasn't it?

 

[Geordan]

Are any of you Toronto people part of the SOB group?

I'm registered on the SOB's boards, but tend to just lurk -- they're so quiet!

 

[jspence1]

I'm not on the board much. It changed when they switched from the mailing list. I'm not getting any grain this time but have a great time hope you find someone to drink with

 

[paulster2626]

It was Molson, wasn't it?

Jesus. How could I not guess this one.

OP, your bottle of Coors Light Iced Tea (C.L.I.T.) was bunk. Just write it off as a lesson learned.

 

[paulster2626]

No chance it was beau's they would fall over themselves to fix it. I had a bottle that wasn't that great and was chatting with them at one of the beer festivals and he asked me to send him the lot number so they could look into it

Yeah they did seem legit when I talked to them at a beer fest. Oh well my guessing is done. I would like a full list of all IIPA's available in the GTA though for my own research purposes.

 

[thatjonguy]

You won't find a plate filter around here everyone uses DE

Just because everyone uses a DE bulk filter doesn't mean they have to as well. Plate filters can be had new for about $7k, even less for used.

 

[jspence1]

Just because everyone uses a DE bulk filter doesn't mean they have to as well. Plate filters can be had new for about $7k, even less for used.

OK let me rephrase, I have personally not seen a single micro brewery in the province of Ontario use anything but DE filters. This is due not to the cost of the filter unit but the cost of the filter plates. Where I worked we filtered 80HL with a DE filter because it was less expensive than plate filters, I'm not positive at what capacity it is more economical to use plate filters but it is definitely more than that. The micros here are brewing in 10-30HL batches

 

[Carter1932]

Looks like they should move over to San Diego Super Yeast. That stuff is quick fermenting and drops so hard and fast you can practically hear it hit the bottom.

 

[thatjonguy]

OK let me rephrase, I have personally not seen a single micro brewery in the province of Ontario use anything but DE filters. This is due not to the cost of the filter unit but the cost of the filter plates. Where I worked we filtered 80HL with a DE filter because it was less expensive than plate filters, I'm not positive at what capacity it is more economical to use plate filters but it is definitely more than that. The micros here are brewing in 10-30HL batches

At that (80 hl) size bulk DE would work better IMO. New bulk DE filters are about $17k USD from Velo in Italy.

It is almost necessary to filter craft beer because the populous thinks all beer should be crystal clear, which is not always true.

I would think that breweries that are packaging would filter prior to bottling or at least use a fining agent post-fermentation if they can't afford a filter unit.

But that does fix the attitude of the brewer. My two problems with the response are; 1) not offering to fix the problem with the customer (hell even a free pint glass and a replacement bottle could have made things a little better) and 2) if they can't afford a filter, how can they afford to play microbiologist (and all the lab equipment) in their spare time? Let a yeast lab find you a new strain while working on fixing your mistake.

 

[Geordan]

... if they can't afford a filter, how can they afford to play microbiologist (and all the lab equipment) in their spare time? Let a yeast lab find you a new strain while working on fixing your mistake.

To be clear, I'm pretty confident that this brewery does filter most of its offerings -- this beer is specifically marketed as unfiltered.

 

[thatjonguy]

To be clear, I'm pretty confident that this brewery does filter most of its offerings -- this beer is specifically marketed as unfiltered.

I must have missed that but I guess mission accomplished then?

 

[jakis]

I had a beer look like this recently from Central City - the red racer IPA. I usually love it but this one poured just like the one pictured at the start of this thread.

 

[edroberts]

I have no problem with yeast sediment with Oberon. Like Heffe's, the yeast is a big part of the flavor profile. So much so, some suggest agitating the beer before opening and pouring.

The worst I have seen/had was a farmhouse from Prairie Artisian. I took out over a half inch of yeast from a pint glass after basically cold-crashing it 3 hours after pouring. It was still full of yeast in suspension at that point too.

 

[worlddivides]

Wow. I've never seen a commercial or homebrew beer with that much yeast in it. The closest I ever came was my very first homebrew, but even it didn't have nearly that much yeast.

Yikes! I don't have a problem normally with drinking visible yeast. I'm a huge fan of Belgian ales after all. But I wouldn't drink a beer if it looked like that.

 

[Sailingeric]

I know this an old thread but I would rather the store be out of the beer I wanted than having the brewery cut corners and ship crap.