Guate Brewing

[pacayaforhops]

I'm using the same system to ferment: salvavida 5gals bottle+stopper+airlock... Works great but yes, these are 4 gallons batches, 4.5 if you use a blowoff tube.
About the sanitizer: I use a vegetable cleaner that I buy at the supermarket, it's called Biocyde... It says it's made of salts of: Poly (hexamethylene biguanide) and alkyldimethil benzyl amonium. 16.40 gramos por 1000ml... This sounds like chinese to me but you guys know about chemistry... I would actually be interested to have your opinion about the product!

That's what we use to disinfect veggies we plan on eating raw, it's a quaternary ammonium and PAPB; as Patzaquel said though, you need to rinse them off with soap or run the risk of ingesting benzylic compounds which aren't really good for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyaminopropyl_biguanide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_ammonium#As_antimicrobials

 

[Curtis2010]

Curtis: that works for me. About specialty grains I was thinking Chocolate, Black patent, crystal 10, crystal 60, about 3 pounds each..

Ok, I will put together a list w qty, cost, and how much for who and post a draft here for you guys to review.

 

[nsaubes]

That's what we use to disinfect veggies we plan on eating raw, it's a quaternary ammonium and PAPB; as Patzaquel said though, you need to rinse them off with soap or run the risk of ingesting benzylic compounds which aren't really good for you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyaminopropyl_biguanide
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quaternary_ammonium#As_antimicrobials

Wow... Loks like I'm gonna change my sanitizing method!

 

[Delano]

Hola, everybody.

I finally got around to brewing a Moza clone yesterday- based off of recommendations from Pacayaforhops. The color looks right, the yeast is bubbling- I'll let you know how it tastes in a few weeks.

 

[Curtis2010]

Hola, everybody.

I finally got around to brewing a Moza clone yesterday- based off of recommendations from Pacayaforhops. The color looks right, the yeast is bubbling- I'll let you know how it tastes in a few weeks.

Cool. Bring some to the reunion.

 

[pacayaforhops]

Glad to hear that, I was wondering about whether you ever did brew it a few days ago. Let us know how it turns out.

 

[hopbrad]

here are my first 2 nicabrews. a brown ale and wheat IPA. the brown is solid. the wheat ipa is a little funky, a little too spicy/hot from the yeast for my taste, kinda clashes with the citrusy hops.

recipe for the brown(4 gallon batch) - 5 lbs of light DME & 1 lb of amber DME. steeped 6 oz of chocolate malt, 8 oz of brown, 2 oz of black roasted barley. 1 oz of warrior for bittering, 1 oz of EK Goldings for flavor. S-04 yeast

 

[Curtis2010]

here are my first 2 nicabrews. a brown ale and wheat IPA. the brown is solid. the wheat ipa is a little funky, a little too spicy/hot from the yeast for my taste, kinda clashes with the citrusy hops.

recipe for the brown(4 gallon batch) - 5 lbs of light DME & 1 lb of amber DME. steeped 6 oz of chocolate malt, 8 oz of brown, 2 oz of black roasted barley. 1 oz of warrior for bittering, 1 oz of EK Goldings for flavor. S-04 yeast

Cool, we will be passing thru Nica soon if you are interested in sharing!

 

[pacayaforhops]

This has been the worst week ever for me (beerwise), I had the mini-keg explode in my room while I was at work, coating EVERYTHING in beer that hadn't fermented completely yet, so it was all a sticky mess; happened monday and I just got done scrubbing the furniture/electronics yesterday.

Then yesterday my co2 decides to call it quits and explosively decompress, causing the beer to foam up and back up into my regulators (2nd time it's happened ever), not that I mind cleaning my regs, but by the time i noticed, my saison was flat again; good thing I have a backup co2 tank.

On the upside, my room smells like the abbey ale I was fermenting in the mini-keg, the downside is I don't want to leave my room any more and just soak the smell in :cross:.

Lessons learned:

• Ferment in a mini-keg with airlock and then carbonate with the original stopper/valve.
• Get a couple of pneumatic check valves for the carbonation rig.

I weep for my abbey ale...

On an unrelated note, looking good hopbrad, let us know how the DC LME works out for you.

 

[hopbrad]

today me and my buddy are bottling an IPA and plan on brewing up a 2 gallon test batch, 2 oz of cascade, half bottle of the DC LME, 1/4 lb of sugar and some of the leftover s-04 from the IPA.

i am about an hour and 15 from Rivas which the pan am runs thru.
nice little beach town. most people know the area b/c of the Rancho Santana resort. i can share. or better yet, a trade!

 

[Patzaquel]

For a quick turn around I'd suggest a premium bitter, I've just made a couple with DC extract and mid/low alpha hops, lots of brown sugar though, chilling the beer as gravity comes to about 1.010

5 lbs DC LME
2 lbs light brown sugar
in 5 gal water

0.5 oz 5% AA hops @60 min
0.5 oz 5% AA hops @15 min

Add the last 0.5 lbs light brown sugar after primary and let it ferment to taste, I like mine with a bit of residual sweetness.

Should still come to about 5% ABV

Do you think the Qiunfica hops would work with this? I have no supplies left at all, but my GF will be ordering from Quinfica in the next week or so, so I should be able to get their hops. I should be able to get the LME shipped out to me too. Another question, in your opinion would subbing the sugar for panela work? (Incidentely was told a few months ago to always boil panela up and strain to get out the dirt/rocks/bugs. So usually I make it up as a syrup between 68% and 80% panela depending on how much water I let boil off, but weigh it before and after to know the concentration)

 

[Curtis2010]

today me and my buddy are bottling an IPA and plan on brewing up a 2 gallon test batch, 2 oz of cascade, half bottle of the DC LME, 1/4 lb of sugar and some of the leftover s-04 from the IPA.

i am about an hour and 15 from Rivas which the pan am runs thru.
nice little beach town. most people know the area b/c of the Rancho Santana resort. i can share. or better yet, a trade!

We should be passing thru the Rivas area in a few days. Not sure exactly how our schedule will work out, but we see if I can find something interesting to trade between here and there.

 

[Curtis2010]

Do you think the Qiunfica hops would work with this? I have no supplies left at all, but my GF will be ordering from Quinfica in the next week or so, so I should be able to get their hops. I should be able to get the LME shipped out to me too. Another question, in your opinion would subbing the sugar for panela work? (Incidentely was told a few months ago to always boil panela up and strain to get out the dirt/rocks/bugs. So usually I make it up as a syrup between 68% and 80% panela depending on how much water I let boil off, but weigh it before and after to know the concentration)

What is Qiunfica?

 

[pacayaforhops]

What is Qiunfica?

A place that sells hops/extract here in Guate, it's been updated to the supplies in Guate thread in the CA-4 group for just under a week.

Do you think the Qiunfica hops would work with this? I have no supplies left at all, but my GF will be ordering from Quinfica in the next week or so, so I should be able to get their hops. I should be able to get the LME shipped out to me too.

Yes quinfica hops should work, try to get "triturado", it's chopped dried hops, extract will give you substantially less aroma (this is one of the bigger issues with cervecería centroamericana's brews), if there´s no alpha % listed, you can assume 4.5-5.5 AA% as they seem to be "bavarian hops".

Another question, in your opinion would subbing the sugar for panela work? (Incidentely was told a few months ago to always boil panela up and strain to get out the dirt/rocks/bugs. So usually I make it up as a syrup between 68% and 80% panela depending on how much water I let boil off, but weigh it before and after to know the concentration)

Yes you can sub brown sugar for panela/syrup, I've done it myself; mostly with darker beers, it lends it a somewhat candied sugar smell and slight caramel taste.

 

[Patzaquel]

Great, thanks for the help and advice. They offer whole or powdered hops, I'm guessing I'll have some chopping to do as the powdered stuff will be too fine to sieve out.

 

[pacayaforhops]

Whole leaf is even better, no need to chop it. If you're on a budget, you can use extract to bitter and whole leaf for flavor/aroma, it should turn out about as good as straight whole leaf hops. Powdered is probably still coarse enough to strain in a large plastic small grid strainer, that's what I use with for pellets, which are just about powdered and pressed; the good thing is they expand as they take moisture in. Whatever's left sediments when I cold crash.

 

[nsaubes]

today me and my buddy are bottling an IPA and plan on brewing up a 2 gallon test batch, 2 oz of cascade, half bottle of the DC LME, 1/4 lb of sugar and some of the leftover s-04 from the IPA.

i am about an hour and 15 from Rivas which the pan am runs thru.
nice little beach town. most people know the area b/c of the Rancho Santana resort. i can share. or better yet, a trade!

Right now I'm fermenting 4 galons of an IPA made of strictly DC LME (looks like yours): 6.5 lbs LME, 0.5 lbs cane sugar. It came at around 0.060, after 1 week it's now at 0.016. I added: 1oz chinook @ 60, 0.5 cascade @ 20, 0.5 cascade @ boil off, I'll dry hop for 7 days with 1oz cascade. Fermented with Coopers. I've tried a sample yesterday and it's pretty good, the color looks fine for an IPA, not too dark. I think this could be a good way to make a simple and cheap IPA in CA (well, 3oz hops is not that cheap, but, eh!). Well, I'll update you when it's done... You guys from Guate can try it when we meet!

 

[nsaubes]

About the meeting: I'm actually working hard on the project of opening a small pizzeria/restaurant, and we are hoping to open it by the beginning of september... If it's the case, well it's gonna be hard for me to assist at the at the reunion at Cheers Z.10, as I will be working at the restaurant. The good point is that we could move the reunion to my place, it would totally be homebrew friendly of course... Well i'm just throwing that right now but I'll keep you updated so that we can take a decision. Anyway it's gonna be in Z. 4, in 4 grados norte, which is pretty close from Z.10 (5-10 min car ride).

 

[nsaubes]

Curtis: how's the order going?

 

[Curtis2010]

Curtis: how's the order going?

Working on it. Traveling now but will post to confirm soon.

 

[pacayaforhops]

About the meeting: I'm actually working hard on the project of opening a small pizzeria/restaurant, and we are hoping to open it by the beginning of september... If it's the case, well it's gonna be hard for me to assist at the at the reunion at Cheers Z.10, as I will be working at the restaurant. The good point is that we could move the reunion to my place, it would totally be homebrew friendly of course... Well i'm just throwing that right now but I'll keep you updated so that we can take a decision. Anyway it's gonna be in Z. 4, in 4 grados norte, which is pretty close from Z.10 (5-10 min car ride).

Sounds like a plan, good luck with opening; let us know, I'd be down with a location switch.

 

[Curtis2010]

Sounds like a plan, good luck with opening; let us know, I'd be down with a location switch.

Good for me too. If you are open then we meet there, if not then Cheers.

 

[Curtis2010]

Working on it. Traveling now but will post to confirm soon.

I was going to mix speciatly grains in w this order but I'm thinking now for our first test of just ordering the 60Lbs of 2-row. There is not much cost savings on a few Lbs of specialty grains anyway.

If no objections, I will go ahead and place the order in the next few days.

I will PM my BAM account unfo to those who want some of the grains, you can deposit your share of the order there and we can sort out final TransCargo shipping costs later.

OK W you guys?

 

[Curtis2010]

Re Quinfica.....cool....we can now get LME and hops in Guate. I will read the updates.

 

[Curtis2010]

What would be a good translation of "homebrew" and "homebrewer"? "Cerveza de la Casa" y "Cervecero de Hogar"?

 

[Curtis2010]

Re Quinfica.....cool....we can now get LME and hops in Guate. I will read the updates.

Any idea what specific hops Qiunfica supplies? Just something generic and German it sounds like.

 

[pacayaforhops]

What would be a good translation of "homebrew" and "homebrewer"? "Cerveza de la Casa" y "Cervecero de Hogar"?

Cerveza casera

Any idea what specific hops Qiunfica supplies? Just something generic and German it sounds like.

No, there's no listing for variety or AA%, just "bavarian hops".

 

[nsaubes]

I was going to mix speciatly grains in w this order but I'm thinking now for our first test of just ordering the 60Lbs of 2-row. There is not much cost savings on a few Lbs of specialty grains anyway.

If no objections, I will go ahead and place the order in the next few days.

I will PM my BAM account unfo to those who want some of the grains, you can deposit your share of the order there and we can sort out final TransCargo shipping costs later.

OK W you guys?

Sounds good to me!

 

[Curtis2010]

ORDER PLACED!

60lbs 2-row, $93.99 including USA shipping, bagged in 6 x 10lb bags..so $9.40 per bag. Final TransCargo cost TBD when shipment arrives.

Allocation: Rappy: 20lbs, Nsaubes: 20lbs, Curtis: 20 lbs. Correct?

 

[nsaubes]

ORDER PLACED!

60lbs 2-row, $93.99 including USA shipping, bagged in 6 x 10lb bags..so $9.40 per bag. Final TransCargo cost TBD when shipment arrives.

Allocation: Rappy: 20lbs, Nsaubes: 20lbs, Curtis: 20 lbs. Correct?

Cool! Thanks Curtis! If you let me now your banking info I could make a 32$ (256Q @ 8Q = 1$)....

Thank you Curtis!