Grunge

[hunter_le five]

...would be like blaming Eddie Vedder for Creed.

Such a heavy cross to bear, it must be. Poor Eddie.

 

[hoppyhoppyhippo]

I see grunge as Subpop and Kill Rock Stars in that magical window (can't define dates) between the very late 80s and the beginning of the 90s.

That covers the majority of the acts as well. Pearl Jam falls out of that though, as does Mother Love Bone and Malfunkshun. Gruntruk, etc.

 

[podz]

I'm not really sure where you come up with that. Van Halen wasn't some record company controlled band. They got big by playing a lot and putting on great shows. ROck was a big business way before hand. Sure Van Halen was a precursor to acts that followed (like the 80s GLAM) blaming them for the 80s commercial rock would be like blaming Eddie Vedder for Creed.

It dunno really know how to explain it but it was a light bulb moment that brought to mind the famous sentence: "they're selling hippie wigs in woolworths man". That was the end of the scene. Just like I told my wife a few weeks back: "they're selling hipster pants in esprit, honey"... I was never a hipster, but I knew at that moment that the time for the bearded guys with purple flower jeans was gone.

 

[JonM]

That covers the majority of the acts as well. Pearl Jam falls out of that though, as does Mother Love Bone and Malfunkshun. Gruntruk, etc.

Yeah, I guess that was a little too circumscribed. I've had a pint or two.

 

[hoppyhoppyhippo]

Yeah, I guess that was a little too circumscribed. I've had a pint or two.

It's OK, Soundgarden, AIC, and Pearl Jam don't consider themselves grunge. I'm sure if Cobain was alive he'd tell you grunge is made up Rolling Stone bull**** or something like that.

 

[1977Brewer]

Yeah, I could see that. I liked a few songs off Tiny Music too, although at that point they had definitely established themselves as something other than grunge.



Speaking of not-quite-grunge bands that got lumped in with the movement, I'm a big fan of the Afghan Whigs (the first non-Seattle band signed to Sub Pop, but far more diverse in their musical influences) and Helmet (still some of my favorite bad-mood music).

I am a massive Helmet fan.

 

[marmstro2]

Has anyone mentioned Green River? I'm sure they have.

 

[joe_four_strings]

Such a heavy cross to bear, it must be. Poor Eddie.

:cross:

 

[drainbamage]

I am a massive Helmet fan.

You're a fan of massive helmets, you say?

 

[Tin4]

Such a heavy cross to bear, it must be. Poor Eddie.

Hunter...can you take me higher? To a place where Creed can't sing? Can you take me higher?

I'm typically not a music hater, like I understand to each his own and I encourage exploration of genres, but man Creed exploited people's religious views during an intense period of youth appropriated religion (especially in the Bible Belt regions) that ended up all being a ruse to sell albums.

Practice what you preach yo.

That's why I preach the sanctity of deliciousness.

You're a fan of massive helmets, you say?

Lets be careful with how far we take that gentlemen. The mods are watching.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4WUlNSx_Wk[/ame]

 

[1977Brewer]

Hunter...can you take me higher? To a place where Creed can't sing? Can you take me higher?

I'm typically not a music hater, like I understand to each his own and I encourage exploration of genres, but man Creed exploited people's religious views during an intense period of youth appropriated religion (especially in the Bible Belt regions) that ended up all being a ruse to sell albums.

Practice what you preach yo.

That's why I preach the sanctity of deliciousness.



Lets be careful with how far we take that gentlemen. The mods are watching.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4WUlNSx_Wk

Says the guy who proceeded to post a rap song by a noise punk band from Austin. Also another of my favorite bands. Locust Abortion Technician is so dirty it's beautiful.

 

[hunter_le five]

Hunter...can you take me higher? To a place where Creed can't sing? Can you take me higher?

I think we can safely add Nickleback to that list. Yeah, it's a list now, because now there's two bands on it.

Seriously, I can't stand Chad Kroeger.

 

[podz]

I think we can safely add Nickleback to that list. Yeah, it's a list now, because now there's two bands on it.

Seriously, I can't stand Chad Kroeger.

SWMBO is a big Nickelback fan. We seen them play at an outdoor gig in Helsinki 4 years back. Luckily they were selling beer at the concert - enough of it kept me from going crazy ;-) And gave me enough of an attitude that I plowed a line through the crowd with her on my tail and took her straight up to the stage.

 

[Psylocide]

This probably belongs in please delete.

 

[1977Brewer]

Oh man, my Nickelback hatred was legendary, when they were relevant. My daughter used to torment me with it. She hated them just as much though.

 

[JonM]

You despise Nickelback, don't you?
If I gave them any thought I probably would.

 

[pointcity-homebrew]

I listen to mainly 90's rock, AIC is my favorite all time band. Another under appreciated band is Seven Mary Three (SM3).

 

[podz]

I listen to mainly 90's rock, AIC is my favorite all time band. Another under appreciated band is Seven Mary Three (SM3).

Dig:

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcl21Foed8Y[/ame]

 

[JonM]

It's hard to watch that and Nirvana's Unplugged now knowing how messed up Layne and Kurt were and knowing how close they were to death. It's a shame they couldn't get cleaned up.

 

[hoppyhoppyhippo]

It's hard to watch that and Nirvana's Unplugged now knowing how messed up Layne and Kurt were and knowing how close they were to death. It's a shame they couldn't get cleaned up.

What's scary is Layne looked like that and then lived for like 4 more years. I don't want to know what he looked like. Apparently it was so bad that when they did the "super group" Another Brick in the Wall Part II for the Faculty, they used stock footage of Layne because he looked bad.

 

[podz]

What's scary is Layne looked like that and then lived for like 4 more years. I don't want to know what he looked like. Apparently it was so bad that when they did the "super group" Another Brick in the Wall Part II for the Faculty, they used stock footage of Layne because he looked bad.

Layne had gotten down to 85 lbs (over 6 foot tall guy) before he died. He was dead in his Seattle apartment for almost 3 weeks before anybody found him, that's how isolated he had become.

 

[betarhoalphadelta]

I listen to mainly 90's rock, AIC is my favorite all time band. Another under appreciated band is Seven Mary Three (SM3).

I completely forgot about Seven Mary Three...

Which to me highlights how amazing Pearl Jam Ten was... *Almost* any song on that album still sounds "right" on the radio, but Cumbersome or Water's Edge... Not so much.

 

[1977Brewer]

Dig:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcl21Foed8Y

Totally forgot about that Metallica dig on the bass. "Friends don't let friends get Friends haircuts."

Totally 90's.

 

[JonM]

First time I saw Metallica, Jerry Cantrell was the opener.

 

[harleybug88]

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I_YkyxZMU0&feature=player_embedded[/ame]

The Grandfather, Old Black and Pearl Jam.

 

[JonM]

That was so freakin cool.

I remember that show distinctly (recorded on VHS and watched endlessly). Chris Novoselic threw his bass up in the air after Nirvana's set (during which they started to play "Rape Me" because the MTV people said they couldn't play that one). Anyway, the bass came down and hit him in the head. Host Dana Carvey says "anyone think he felt that?"

EDIT: maybe those were a year apart. Brain's getting old.

 

[1977Brewer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I_YkyxZMU0&feature=player_embedded

The Grandfather, Old Black and Pearl Jam.

Perfect. The second solo...

 

[beskone]

I mean for me to be blunt, I see Grunge as the bands with ties to Green River. THat ties you to Mudhoney, MLB, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, AIC, Screaming Trees, and others. I'm sure I'm missing a few with that rule.

This I find very acceptable.

 

[Opiate42]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KmYFY5oOvM

I love Grunge. Going to see AIC for the second time next month.

Pissed at myself for not seeing them the last time they were in town!! AIC is my brewing music and Dirt is almost always stuck in my head

 

[joe_four_strings]

AIC last night in Orlando. It was awesome....