Some thing with me ! I stopped brewing because I hated brewing outside with a 3V running propane. And it took me forever to get brewing again because I didn't have time to build something big and fancy. And even if I built a 3V, I was going to be in the garage or, at best, in the basement. I have a young family and spending the day in the basement doesn't work for me. Spending 4-5 hours near the kitchen, that is a totally different story.