Got evicted because of brewing

[Talgrath]

What would the non rent violation be? Owning a turkey fryer? Plus the OP said he no longer uses propane, so he "complies". So as far as a cure or quit notice is concerned, he fulfilled the obligations of the "cure".

Without seeing the rental application, I'm not sure. Personally, I'm not a property lawyer and I sure as hell stay far away from Wisconsin, I'm just noticing that Wisconsin's laws regarding eviction are harsh.

 

[beerme70]

Based on the fact that the landlord is being a total dick, I would make it as miserable as possible for him. I suggest you watch the movie "Pacific Heights" if you haven't already. You can get some good pointers.

 

[Weezy]

If you're otherwise innocent in the situation and want to stay, call the local news station. Home brewing is a hobby the news and viewing public would support (assuming you're not in the bible belt).

You could even call the local ACLU.

 

[Natdavis777]

If you have a dog or know someone who does, some poo on the door knobs, mailboxes, handrails, etc that the landlord would come in contact with would be a nice last hoorah.... Just sayin.

 

[fimpster]

I wish I had a brew house sh!tter.

 

[nightrider069]

Lol well the floor in the basement are asphalt. Juts sent in the bid today to counter there offer. Can't wait. I am nervous but I will get through this process.

 

[castermmt]

I used my VA loan a couple of times and it is a sweet deal for those of us who have served. The VA does a lot of good for our veteran's other then guaranteed loans.

Thanks for your service, hope everything works out for you. Castermmt

 

[FuriousE]

I've got to say, I'm a little disappointed about all the responses saying he should trash the current place. We really don't have both sides of the story, and even if we did, that is hardly an appropriate course of action!

Good luck on the new place, OP.

 

[seigex]

I've got to say, I'm a little disappointed about all the responses saying he should trash the current place. We really don't have both sides of the story, and even if we did, that is hardly an appropriate course of action!

Let alone being charged with vandalism/malicious mischief, or at the very least being sued civilly.

 

[watermelon83]

What I think is great, is that the OP seems to have come to terms with the eviction and views it as a chance to make something better for himself. It's the rest of the crowd that wants to burn the place down. Homebrewers sure are a supportive bunch!!

OP I'm sorry for the BS, new place looks great.

 

[user 30639]

I once had the police called on me while I was brewing. Someone drove past my house and thought I was making crystal meth... in my driveway?!!! The cops were cool though, and I offered them (and they accepted!) a taste of the wort and I gave each a hop cone to take with them. Never had an issue again.

Our club has had the police roll by slow when we're doing a club brew day, but they've never stopped.

 

[podz]

Damned cast-iron drain pipe with lead-sealed joints.

I'd remove the rubber adapter and inspect the inside of that pipe. If it's rusted and mostly clogged, then it will need to be replaced soon. Cast-iron pipes only have a lifespan of 50 years, after that you're living on borrowed time and that is a major freaking job to remove that old stuff.

 

[Onkel_Udo]

Damned cast-iron drain pipe with lead-sealed joints.

I'd remove the rubber adapter and inspect the inside of that pipe. If it's rusted and mostly clogged, then it will need to be replaced soon. Cast-iron pipes only have a lifespan of 50 years, after that you're living on borrowed time and that is a major freaking job to remove that old stuff.

Um, most cast iron in the US until the last 20 years was 1/2" or greater wall for 3" and larger pipe. It used lead and oakum for their joints.

Having owned three houses in excess 80 years old, the only issues i have had with cast iron are when the have galvanized pipe tee'd off it. the rotting of hte galvy to cast join fail and takes both out.

 

[masskrug]

That basement is a great space, so much potential!

 

[podz]

Um, most cast iron in the US until the last 20 years was 1/2" or greater wall for 3" and larger pipe. It used lead and oakum for their joints.

Having owned three houses in excess 80 years old, the only issues i have had with cast iron are when the have galvanized pipe tee'd off it. the rotting of hte galvy to cast join fail and takes both out.

The inspection will take 10 minutes since all that is needed is to loosen a hose clamp.

I'll bet that there's junk and rust at least half an inch thick on the inside walls.

Yep, lead-oakum joints, half-inch walls. Same **** everywhere. They wait to crack until it's 11pm during a snowstorm and you've got a houseful of overnight guests.

 

[Onkel_Udo]

The inspection will take 10 minutes since all that is needed is to loosen a hose clamp.

I'll bet that there's junk and rust at least half an inch thick on the inside walls.

Yep, lead-oakum joints, half-inch walls. Same **** everywhere. They wait to crack until it's 11pm during a snowstorm and you've got a houseful of overnight guests.

I just saw a lot of hubless and gasket-and-hub cast iron in Germany and Austria when I lived there. Both tended to be thinner wall.

Just removed a HUGE chunk (over 600#'s) of cast iron vent and main stack in my current house when remodeling. and relocating wall. Oddly, it was the 3" vent that had the scale. the 4" main stack was coated with a thick layer of soap scum and filthy that seemed to have protected it.

 

[podz]

Just removed a HUGE chunk (over 600#'s) of cast iron vent and main stack in my current house when remodeling. and relocating wall.

In my basement, there is a dressing room that leads to the sauna. The dressing room is 1 meter wide. At the far end, the main goes from concrete wall to concrete wall just underneath the ceiling. The 1 meter long crack is along the top-ish side of the pipe, all the way from one wall to the other.

This is a 65 year old house.

The crack looks very much like this:

 

[nthammer]

That is bummer about your landlord. I know a couple who rents out a couple houses in Janesville and they have told me how ****ty a lot of the other owners are (they are nice people themselves).

I moved into elkhorn recently and when my landlord saw my kegerator he just gave me a funny look but didn't inquire too much luckily. This thread has motivated me to take a second look at my lease and I don't see anything that would indicate I can't homebrew (and there are a LOT of rules on my lease).

goodluck with getting your new house.

 

[northcal]

In my basement, there is a dressing room that leads to the sauna. The dressing room is 1 meter wide. At the far end, the main goes from concrete wall to concrete wall just underneath the ceiling. The 1 meter long crack is along the top-ish side of the pipe, all the way from one wall to the other.

This is a 65 year old house.

The crack looks very much like this:

Too bad about the cracked pipe, but at least you have a sauna! :rockin:

 

[k1ngl1ves]

Damned cast-iron drain pipe with lead-sealed joints.

I'd remove the rubber adapter and inspect the inside of that pipe. If it's rusted and mostly clogged, then it will need to be replaced soon. Cast-iron pipes only have a lifespan of 50 years, after that you're living on borrowed time and that is a major freaking job to remove that old stuff.

Lol! That's not a big issue. What about the galvanized supply lines?!!! That's the big, expensive one. Unfortunately, that's everywhere when it comes to older areas.

Most drainage can be rodded out to extend the utility of the pipeline. Galvanized, on the other hand, is unforgiving.





Let's stop giving this guy nightmares now...

 

[Hello]

That's a raw deal with the eviction, but you're moving onto better things. At the very least, I'd find a way to determine if the eviction were lawful or not. File a complaint with your state's attorney general. Whatever you choose to do, don't trash the place, don't leave feces anywhere, and don't threaten the landlord in any way. The guy could be a total piece of ****, but you don't need the trouble.

Great brew space for sure! Good luck with the bid.

 

[nightrider069]

Got the house.

 

[TimmyWit]

Got the house.

Congrats!

 

[Sammy86]

Been following the thread...congrats on the house!

 

[BigFloppy]

Hope your new house has plenty of brew space and is not part of an HOA. They can give you trouble too.

My HOA officers keep asking if I have anything new on tap

 

[nightrider069]

Well it will be a few weeks before I brew again but can't wait. No more bs from anyone

 

[northcal]

Got the house.

Sweet you deserve it after all the bs.

Looking forward to an epic basement brewery/toilet rehab build thread this year!

congrats,:rockin:

 

[nightrider069]

Lol sounds great. I may need some help though

 

[Wavery]

If you can't be out in time, don't stress. The landlord cannot evict you. He can only sew you for eviction. That takes time (at least 30-days in CA).

I was a property manager for a large property management company in Los Angeles from 1999- 2014. For the last 6 years I was giving property management seminars all over Los Angeles. The laws are somewhat different from City to City and State to State. However, you do have federal law on your side. There is NO WAY that they can come in and remove your property without encountering a Civil Rights law suite. It doesn't even mater if you never paid a dimes rent. If you have keys to the place and receive mail there...... you are a tenant (even if you are there illegally). The onus is on the landlord to prove in a court of law that you do not belong there. Even then, only a Marshal (in CA) or other court official can lock you out of the apt. then you have a certain period of time (2 weeks in Los Angeles) to come back in and remove your property.

Don't let them push you around. Take your time and move when it's best for you.

If you want to send me a copy of your Lease, I can tell you whether they even have a right to evict you. Have they ever notified you in writing that you are in violation of your Lease and given you an amount of time to correct the violation? In most areas, you cannot be evicted without being given an opportunity to correct the violation. If they did notify you and they have witnesses that are willing to state in a court of law that you violated the rule after being given notice, they can then file for eviction with the court. At that time, you will be served with a notice to appear in court to defend yourself. That normally takes 30 days AFTER you have been served by the court. The landlord cannot evict you on his own. There is a process. If he violates that due process, you will be the next property owner..... j/k.

IMHO, an owner may be able to stipulate in a lease that a propane burner may not be used on the premisses. However, there would have to be witnesses that are willing to testify in court (that ain't going to happen) that you violated the rule AFTER you were given fair notice not to do it.

Bottom line...... pay your rent..... chill out and move when you're ready or you have a COURT ORDER giving you a time and date to be out by.

BTW....... did they accept your January rent? If not, be sure to put the $ in an escrow account or have a money order made out to the landlord.... mail it by certified mail..... return receipt requested. If the mail comes back.... DO NOT open it. Save the letter in case this jack-ass claims non-payment of rent. That is the only way that he can file non-payment with the credit agencies. If he does that and you have your ducks in a row...... you can sue him for falsely reporting to the credit bureau. That's a big deal.

 

[FiddlersGreen87]

With some high end ingredients and an already installed "brew kettle" you'll be able to make some righteous prison hooch...