GF Malts

[C-Rider]

I have a friend or two that are GF. Being in Hawai`i our LHBS carries very little GF grain mostly flaked stuff.

Can I use any of these in combination in a mash or do I need something else to "convert" them?

Corn, Oats, Rice

There is a health food store on the island that has about a million different grains but they are not "malted" so do I have to malt them?

I'm really at a loss as where to start for these friends.

 

[C-Rider]

OOPS, just noticed the Stickys. Let me try reading them. LOL

 

[Osedax]

There are a couple different ways to approach it. Read the stickies. If you have any questions on it, ask away. We are a friendlyish sub forum.

Welcome to the non-barley blasphemers.

 

[C-Rider]

Many thanks I've got a lot of reading to do.

 

[C-Rider]

Did some research here and at the only two health food stores the only syrups I could find are:
Brown Rice
Agave necter
Maple syrup.

Interested in making a 2 gallon test batch of GF beer for a friend. I found a variety of seed grains I could toast, but have no idea of where to start w/water. The brown rice comes in 21 oz containers and the agave and maple come in 12 oz bottles.

 

[BrewCanuck]

Hey C-Rider,

Try taking a look at my Confused Brown Ale Recipe. I have only been allowed to use Rice Syrup for the most part here in Germany and that was one of my first beers.

BC

 

[C-Rider]

Hey C-Rider,

Try taking a look at my Confused Brown Ale Recipe. I have only been allowed to use Rice Syrup for the most part here in Germany and that was one of my first beers.

BC

Thanks, I may have to try that. Went on-line and 3.3 lbs of sorghum syurip from MidWest would cost me $25 including shipping. Now to get to the other side of the island to get the brown rice syrup.

 

[C-Rider]

Thanks, I may have to try that. Went on-line and 3.3 lbs of sorghum syurip from MidWest would cost me $25 including shipping. Now to get to the other side of the island to get the brown rice syrup.

Aloha BrewCanuk
I now have 595gm of Brown Rice Syrup. I want to make a small batch say 2 gallons. I'm at a loss as where to start. I've been brewing all grain so long I forgot how to do Extracts. LOL
I think I can get the grains at a health food shop and will roast them.
So I steep them for how long in how much water before adding the syrups and molasses?

I took your recipe and divided by 5 assuming you made 5 gallons???
then multiplied results by 2 and came up w/this:

0.18kg Roasted Buckwheat – Steeped for 30 minutes @ 70°C
0.18kg Roasted Flaked Millet – Steeped for 30 minutes @ 70°C
0.72kg Brown Rice Syrup – Added 60 min remaining in boil
0.1kg Black Strap Molasses – Added at 20 min remaining in boil
0.1 kg Maple Syrup, Grade C – Added at 20 min remaining in boil

Hop Schedule
4g Fuggles (4,98% AA) – Added at 60 minutes remaining in boil
6g East Kent Goldings (6.00% AA) – Added at 15 minutes remaining in boil

Question still is how much water do you think??? And do I have to malt the grain or is roasting the seeds enough?

This is so complicated. LOL Hope my friend is happy w/it. Hope it can be drunk. LOL

 

[BrewCanuck]

Hey C-Rider,

That recipe was actually for 10L, about 2.5 gallons.

So if I were you I'd take the recipe as is and start with about 3 gallons of water to account for grain absorbtion and boil off.
Just toast the grain till a nice brown, let it waft about a week then steep for 30 minutes at about 150F before starting the boil.

I can send you the original beersmith file if you want. It'll have to be tommorw night though.

Let me know.

 

[C-Rider]

Hey C-Rider,

That recipe was actually for 10L, about 2.5 gallons.

So if I were you I'd take the recipe as is and start with about 3 gallons of water to account for grain absorbtion and boil off.
Just toast the grain till a nice brown, let it waft about a week then steep for 30 minutes at about 150F before starting the boil.

I can send you the original beersmith file if you want. It'll have to be tommorw night though.

Let me know.

Mahalo for the update. the beersmith file would be great. I often use about 2.85-2.9gallons depending of grain weight for my 2 gallon batches. I use the 2 gallon paint buckets from Home Depot. :rockin:

 

[C-Rider]

Aloha BrewCanuck,
Just thinkng. Rather than trying to re-invent the wheel, could you share your other recipes? Did you make any adjustments to this? This is just for a friend and I'll still be doing mostly barley brews.

 

[BrewCanuck]

C-Rider,

The changes i would make to the original recipe is back the rice syrup off to about 3 ponds (1.35kg) and kick the Fuggles (bittering addition) up to about half an ounce. This should balance the beer out a bit more. It was my first brew and I didn't know my equipment at all so I ended up with very little hop presence and a 7% beer.

These changes are what I'm planning for the next go around. I just moved back to Canada over the last week and all my brewing gear is on a ship from Germany. i want to tune each recipe one more time before I post in the Recipes forum but I've attached the Beersmith brew log with my notes here for each brew.

Next time I brew this recipe I'll let you know. I'm pretty anxious since my pipeline is dry and booze is rather expensive here at home. When my wife isn't looking I may run to the LHBS and grab some stuff for Edwort's Apfelwein at least, just to scratch the itch

View attachment GlutenFreeRecipes.bsmx

 

[EvanLouis]

Unless I missed something, and I've had a pint or two already!....steeping grains does next to nothing as far as fermentable sugars. Steeping oats for 45 min or so will help on flavor and smoothness but you really need to do a mash of malted buckwheat and/or millet.

 

[C-Rider]

Did a test roast of 1 oz of the hulled millet today.
30 min at 220*
30 min at 310*
30 min at 337*
Has a nice lite chocolate color, taste is a little roasty.
Now I have to go to Jack in the Box for a take out meal so I get a paper bag. LOL None in the house, everything is plastic.

 

[BrewCanuck]

EvamLouis,
The steeped grains add colour and flavour but you're right that there aren't any fermentables. This is that step between extract and partial mash

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[WizardBill]

I am very confused. After tons of research, it would seem like the best grain would be oats. I use oats all the time. There is gluten, but not wheat gluten in them.

 

[WizardBill]

Whoops. Ingredient list has oats. Never mind. Yes, GF oats IS from cross contamination from other crops. Oats gave no wheat gluten.