Getting confused

[Mojotgefish]

Right getting myself confused again, I've got my fermzilla conical and gas so I can pressure ferment at low psi and use a beer gun to transfer to bottle and prime as normal, now I'm thinking some oxykegs maybe the 20 litre ones and pressure ferment at a higher psi but without chilling will the transfer go OK without foaming?
Plus from a serving perspective I don't have room for a kegerator homemade or otherwise, so maybe a kegland chiller would be an option I'm just not sure how it would work

 

[Bobby_M]

Whatever pressure you develop in the fermenter will mostly offgas in the transfer to any other ambient pressure destination vessel if the beer is warm. In other words, 2psi in the primary will foam down to probably .5psi going into open bottles and of course that's OK if you're bottle conditioning as long as the foaming doesn't prevent you from getting an appropriate fill level. The only way to really transfer without carbonation loss is to maintain backpressure on the receiving vessel such as putting the Blowtie on the gas output of the Oxebar. If the primary was at 5psi, you set the blowtie to 5psi and then push the beer with 7-8psi. No foam, no loss.

 

[Mojotgefish]

Thankyou

 

[OakIslandBrewery]

Right getting myself confused again, I've got my fermzilla conical and gas so I can pressure ferment at low psi and use a beer gun to transfer to bottle and prime as normal, now I'm thinking some oxykegs maybe the 20 litre ones and pressure ferment at a higher psi but without chilling will the transfer go OK without foaming?
Plus from a serving perspective I don't have room for a kegerator homemade or otherwise, so maybe a kegland chiller would be an option I'm just not sure how it would work

It's my understanding that the Kegland chiller is used on a fermenter and not to serve cold beer. I could be wrong, perhaps someone has tried that.

You mention "bottles" are you kegging your beer too?

 

[Mojotgefish]

I was just gonna bottle but after reading about close transfer kegging I'm sorta leaning towards kegging I just need a separate fridge to keep it cool

 

[Broken Crow]

I've got my fermzilla conical and gas so I can pressure ferment at low psi and use a beer gun to transfer to bottle and prime as normal,

There's 3 issues I have with this sentence. I looked at your other posts but I don't know enough of what your working with to tailor a simple set of answers to so...
Does "and gas" mean that you have a CO2 tank, regulator and lines?
If you do have CO2 gear, you could simply force carb the whole batch and bottle with a beergun, counterpressure filler, or tapcooler, BUT: Beer with any amount of carbonation will foam up, less when chilled near freezing but at the other end; maybe losing up to 3/4 of a bottle to foam at room temperatures.
You mention pressure fermetation, but honestly: If you wanna carb and condition in bottles, you'd best vent it and let it go totally flat before priming and bottling if you can't do it chilled.
Maybe this is a good time to tell us a lot more about what you're working with and what you want to do in detail.
The better we know you and your stuff, the better we can help.

 

[Mojotgefish]

Yes I have gas 6KG and a regulator, and a beer gun and a 55 litre fermziller conicol with hop bung, I prefer making IPAS and I'd like to pressure ferment I'm just weighing up what's best If I prime and bottle it's not a problem with the house fridge, that's what I've been doing prior to getting the fermziller.
If I keg I'd have to get a fridge in the garage to store the kegs and keep cool and bring the keg in the house to dispense I know it's a bit disjointed but there's only so much room

 

[OakIslandBrewery]

I was just gonna bottle but after reading about close transfer kegging I'm sorta leaning towards kegging I just need a separate fridge to keep it cool

I keg all of my beer in corny five gallon kegs. You do need an almost dedicated way to chill them. There are smaller keg sizes available to consider.

There's a considerable cost to getting into kegged beer. If you're bottling now I would stick with that and look for deals to get into kegging. Lots of used stuff out there.

 

[Mojotgefish]

I keg all of my beer in corny five gallon kegs. You do need an almost dedicated way to chill them. There are smaller keg sizes available to consider.

There's a considerable cost to getting into kegged beer. If you're bottling now I would stick with that and look for deals to get into kegging. Lots of used stuff out there.

I was looking at the oxy kegs as they are very cost effective

 

[Broken Crow]

I'm right there with you on adding refrigeration equipment... My own kegging journey began as a means to force-carb and bottle without mucking about with a bottling bucket and where I live it gets pretty cold in the winter so I transfered from glass carboys to a keg and force-carbed in an unheated backroom in my house when it got down to freezing and sat on the floor with a Blichmann Beergun to bottle...I saved and bought my first secondhand kegerator the following summer.
The hardest thing for some brewers is patience...Since you suggest getting a fridge for your garage, I'd suggest to just carry on for now as you have been and plan for the future fridge: Oxbars kegs and a fridge can make an ideal force-carbing unit if you simple add a single shank to the door and a Tapcooler https://www.themaltmiller.co.uk/product/counter-pressure-bottle-filler/
or some other type of filler...don't bother taking the keg out from the fridge, just bottle through the door.

 

[OakIslandBrewery]

I was looking at the oxy kegs as they are very cost effective

It's a great way to get there for sure.

I've been at this hobby for a long time and I can appreciate ways to save costs and planning purchases. Last year I replaced my dedicated beer fridge with a commercial beer cooler. It took a lot of time to make that decision.