Gas line through keezer collar ....help!

[Turfgrass]

I’m looking to keep my co2 tank outside of the keezer and run a gas line through the collar. Anyone know of a bulkhead or a air tight diy connection that might help with connecting and disconnecting from the tank? Pictures might help. Not sure of the o.d., but using 5/16 I.d. tubing. Thanks.

 

[day_trippr]

I've used these 1/4" MFL bulkheads on all three fridges and my keezer. I add an adapter to get to a ball lock gas post on the outside making it easy to connect/disconnect the gas system...

Cheers!

 

[WBCo]

I use the same bulkheads as day_trippr but without the gas posts. You can always just use a male flare fitting screwed onto the bulkhead, but the gas posts make it much more convenient if you need to move things around.

 

[Turfgrass]

I've used these 1/4" MFL bulkheads on all three fridges and my keezer. I add an adapter to get to a ball lock gas post on the outside making it easy to connect/disconnect the gas system...

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Cheers!

I did see this piece once before, but passed over bc thought the change in gas size would have been a problem. For example, I have 5/16 I.d. Gas tube and this bulkhead is 1/4”.....Do you have a link to the fitting resting on top of the frame in your photo? Looks easy enough to connect/disconnect from gas line.

Looks like I’d need the 4” inch bulkhead to pass through my 2.25” thick collar.

 

[day_trippr]

The adapter from the 1/4" mfl bulkhead to the gas post can be found here. They carry adapters to fit the differing post threads.

You can obtain a 1/4" ffl swivel/barb that will fit 5/16" ID gas line here. That could be used directly on the bulkhead if one forgoes the gas post, or it can be used on a gas QD that will plug on the gas post, if used. Either way there's a solution...

Cheers!

 

[Turfgrass]

https://www.chicompany.net/beer-sto...adapter-cornelius-keg-posts-1-4ffl-x-19-32-18

This one specifically?

I could purchase two of the bulkheads and use one for co2 and the other for beer line cleaning. The post adapter can thread onto the bulkhead and the beer line ball lock from the keg onto the post adapter. If that makes sense.

 

[michaeltrego]

I’m looking to keep my co2 tank outside of the keezer and run a gas line through the collar. Anyone know of a bulkhead or a air tight diy connection that might help with connecting and disconnecting from the tank? Pictures might help. Not sure of the o.d., but using 5/16 I.d. tubing. Thanks.

I used this 1/4" MFL bulkhead and it's been working great for several years now.

 

[Turfgrass]

The adapter from the 1/4" mfl bulkhead to the gas post can be found here. They carry adapters to fit the differing post threads.

You can obtain a 1/4" ffl swivel/barb that will fit 5/16" ID gas line here. That could be used directly on the bulkhead if one forgoes the gas post, or it can be used on a gas QD that will plug on the gas post, if used. Either way there's a solution...

Cheers!

https://www.chicompany.net/beer-sto...adapter-cornelius-keg-posts-1-4ffl-x-19-32-18

This one specifically?

I could purchase two of the bulkheads and use one for co2 and the other for beer line cleaning. The post adapter can thread onto the bulkhead and the beer line ball lock from the keg onto the post adapter. If that makes sense.

 

[day_trippr]

"Specifically" - if you use a Cornelius post. You'd need a different model for a Firestone post...

Cheers!

 

[Turfgrass]

"Specifically" - if you use a Cornelius post. You'd need a different model for a Firestone post...

Cheers!

Yes, I have an Italian made corney keg that I got from Morebeer. Just worried about the fit.

 

[Turfgrass]

Actually the corney keg has NSF stamped on it and the beer post has S41 etched in.

 

[day_trippr]

I doubt either of those details have any significance wrt thread sizes.
"NSF" is likely a certification mark; no idea what "S41" might denote...

Cheers!

 

[Turfgrass]

I doubt either of those details have any significance wrt thread sizes.
"NSF" is likely a certification mark; no idea what "S41" might denote...

Cheers!

I doubt either of those details have any significance wrt thread sizes.
"NSF" is likely a certification mark; no idea what "S41" might denote...

Cheers!

So, will this fitting still work with my black plastic beer attachment?

 

[imasickboy]

That fitting will attach to a male flare, which is on the end of the bulkhead. Then a keg post will screw onto it, then your keg disconnect will attach.

You'll need to buy the bulkhead, the adapters in the post above, and 2 keg posts. Then you'll be perfect. To answer your underlying question, the disconnects will fit on both firestone and cornelius posts. It's the threading of the underside of the posts that are different. All you have to do is match the adapters you buy to the posts you buy. Also, be mindful that liquid, (black disconnect), and gas, (grey disconnect), are different size posts. If you're running gas through the collar, buy gas posts, and use grey disconnects.

I hope I was clear enough and didn't muddy the water further.

 

[mongoose33]

I'm missing something; why the need to attach a QD to the gas line going through the collar?

I use the bulkheads you can get from the CHI company too--and you can get the 4" one from Ritebrew as well--and I just attach the gas line to the bulkhead shank using a swivel nut and nylon washer.

I suppose if you were moving the CO2 tank/regulator combo on a regular basis you might want to use a QD, but if you're not, then why the QD? Seems like a lot of fiddling for little gain.

I have four bulkhead shanks feeding from 4 secondary regulators, you can see how easy it is to use swivel nuts to connect to them:

 

[brew703]

I also ran mine like Mongoose did. No issues.

 

[Turfgrass]

That fitting will attach to a male flare, which is on the end of the bulkhead. Then a keg post will screw onto it, then your keg disconnect will attach.

You'll need to buy the bulkhead, the adapters in the post above, and 2 keg posts. Then you'll be perfect. To answer your underlying question, the disconnects will fit on both firestone and cornelius posts. It's the threading of the underside of the posts that are different. All you have to do is match the adapters you buy to the posts you buy. Also, be mindful that liquid, (black disconnect), and gas, (grey disconnect), are different size posts. If you're running gas through the collar, buy gas posts, and use grey disconnects.

I hope I was clear enough and didn't muddy the water further.

Gotcha the adapter is sandwiched between the flare thread and the keg post thread. thx for the heads up. The adapter from above can be used for gas and liquid.

I have the gas all figured out. I’m just trying to figure out a way to clean beer lines by connecting to the black keg connect.

 

[Turfgrass]

I'm missing something; why the need to attach a QD to the gas line going through the collar?

I use the bulkheads you can get from the CHI company too--and you can get the 4" one from Ritebrew as well--and I just attach the gas line to the bulkhead shank using a swivel nut and nylon washer.

I suppose if you were moving the CO2 tank/regulator combo on a regular basis you might want to use a QD, but if you're not, then why the QD? Seems like a lot of fiddling for little gain.

I have four bulkhead shanks feeding from 4 secondary regulators, you can see how easy it is to use swivel nuts to connect to them:

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yeah, I will have a similar setup when my bulkhead arrives. The issue now is cleaning out beer lines. I just need an adapter to connect to the black beer disconnect and run cleaner through lines and taps.

 

[mongoose33]

yeah, I will have a similar setup when my bulkhead arrives. The issue now is cleaning out beer lines. I just need an adapter to connect to the black beer disconnect and run cleaner through lines and taps.

This is what I use; I can daisy-chain 5 taps together and clean them all simultaneously.

https://www.brewhardware.com/product_p/ball_lock_jumperpost.htm



You can also get a jumper that will connect two swivel nuts, like this:



Here's the daisy-chain:

 

[day_trippr]

I'm missing something; why the need to attach a QD to the gas line going through the collar?[...]

The only thing you're missing is nobody actually expressed a need to use posts and QDs...

Cheers!

 

[Turfgrass]

This is what I use; I can daisy-chain 5 taps together and clean them all simultaneously.

https://www.brewhardware.com/product_p/ball_lock_jumperpost.htm

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You can also get a jumper that will connect two swivel nuts, like this:

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Here's the daisy-chain:

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Kool, so what’s the flow route? The tube from the pump disappears into the keezer and you have some large white tubes over the taps.

 

[mongoose33]

Kool, so what’s the flow route? The tube from the pump disappears into the keezer and you have some large white tubes over the taps.

You can do that with just one line and distribute with a manifold inside, or splitters, or whatever. The inside of my keezer looks like this:

The bottom line feeds a small keg in which I keep RO water that is used to feed my glass rinser. You can see the clear line coming from that keg, attached to the inside of the collar, and terminating on the left side of the collar where it passes through a bulkhead shank out to the glass rinser.

The second line from the bottom is a singleton, can be used to pressurize a single keg, or force carb one, or whatever.

The top two lead to 2-valve manifolds feeding the other 4 kegs. That allows me to have a few different volumes of gas if I want, though as it turns out that doesn't happen very much.

Here's the outside of the keezer:

 

[pigroaster]

Could you post or PM me regarding source for glass rinser and assembly? Thanks

You can do that with just one line and distribute with a manifold inside, or splitters, or whatever. The inside of my keezer looks like this:

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The bottom line feeds a small keg in which I keep RO water that is used to feed my glass rinser. You can see the clear line coming from that keg, attached to the inside of the collar, and terminating on the left side of the collar where it passes through a bulkhead shank out to the glass rinser.

The second line from the bottom is a singleton, can be used to pressurize a single keg, or force carb one, or whatever.

The top two lead to 2-valve manifolds feeding the other 4 kegs. That allows me to have a few different volumes of gas if I want, though as it turns out that doesn't happen very much.

Here's the outside of the keezer:

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[mongoose33]

Could you post or PM me regarding source for glass rinser and assembly? Thanks

The glass rinser I got from Amazon, here:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0056HR7M6/?tag=skimlinks_replacement-20

@day_trippr I believe found one that doesn't have the stainless flange on the side. That's for attaching under a bar top, and I decided I'd keep it as is since someday I may want to do exactly that.

Here's what the underside looks like:

The rinser sits on a couple of shelf brackets. I used some command hooks to hold it to those brackets, and I use a small L-shaped bracket to hold the flange tight to the collar so it can't tip or fall off.

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

I ran my gas lines thru the collar. Kept things simple. Drill holes just a bit larger than the gas tubing. Sand. Run tubing and seal with silicone.

 

[Turfgrass]

It’s called a corney keg, but maybe the ball lock fitting is a firestone??? Trying to figure out the correct adapter. Here’s another pic on the keg.

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

Ball locks are ball locks. Firestone, at least in my experience, only matters for the poppets and/or dip tubes.

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

Example of secondary regulator with gas lines thru the collar into the keezer.

 

[Turfgrass]

That fitting will attach to a male flare, which is on the end of the bulkhead. Then a keg post will screw onto it, then your keg disconnect will attach.

You'll need to buy the bulkhead, the adapters in the post above, and 2 keg posts. Then you'll be perfect. To answer your underlying question, the disconnects will fit on both firestone and cornelius posts. It's the threading of the underside of the posts that are different. All you have to do is match the adapters you buy to the posts you buy. Also, be mindful that liquid, (black disconnect), and gas, (grey disconnect), are different size posts. If you're running gas through the collar, buy gas posts, and use grey disconnects.

I hope I was clear enough and didn't muddy the water further.

That fitting will attach to a male flare, which is on the end of the bulkhead. Then a keg post will screw onto it, then your keg disconnect will attach.

You'll need to buy the bulkhead, the adapters in the post above, and 2 keg posts. Then you'll be perfect. To answer your underlying question, the disconnects will fit on both firestone and cornelius posts. It's the threading of the underside of the posts that are different. All you have to do is match the adapters you buy to the posts you buy. Also, be mindful that liquid, (black disconnect), and gas, (grey disconnect), are different size posts. If you're running gas through the collar, buy gas posts, and use grey disconnects.

I hope I was clear enough and didn't muddy the water further.

Okay, think I was assuming that the disconnect went straight to the adapter?

 

[Tobor_8thMan]

To mongoose33. I really like the collar stain. Very nice! What color of stain was used? Sand between stain coats? If so, grit of sandpaper?