OK....I just had to dig this back up...I went with the aquarium heater trick...my bucket in a utility tub (about 2ft square)...with a few old winter jackets on top to insulate..(I floated a few ballons on top to keep the jackets off the water ,worked great)...fermented @90 degrees 6 days....one week @70 degrees...5 weeks in secondary (just dident have time to bottle)...4 weeks in bottles @ 65 to 70 degrees...chilled 3 days...and WOW...good beer...1.05 og....1.00 fg....golden color....great head...(insert head jokes here)...smells good and tastes great ...not bitter...and pleasent on the palet...one of the best I have brewed...and will do again....just in case anybody was intreasted....Tom