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Gordon Biersch? Really? OK, to each his own, but I am surprised that a brewery chain that does not mash, that only uses extracts to brew, could produce a 'great' beer- (no offense intended to the numerous homebrewers that use extract- I was one for years)

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Gordon Biersch? Really? OK, to each his own, but I am surprised that a brewery chain that does not mash, that only uses extracts to brew, could produce a 'great' beer- (no offense intended to the numerous homebrewers that use extract- I was one for years)

yes, Gordon Biersch. Really.

i don't care if the beer was extract, it was a really good beer. don't be a *******
 
rycov- Why call me a ******* for expressing my opinion, without having directed any insults at anyone? Anyhow, I was watching a tv program during the past month or so that was about a brewer at GB, and it showed him brewing- with extracts. Maybe I'm wrong? But my opinion (just an opinion, mind you, which both you and I and every other person has for their own) is that GB beers are not 'great' - Like I said, 'to each his own'

Edit: additionally, it should be understood clearly that communication via text on a computer inadequately conveys tone, feeling and often times intent. Look, friends, if we were all sitting by the fire, enjoying a few, we could much more easily have this conversation without any feathers getting ruffled-
 
I have to concur, most Gordon Biersch brews are pretty boring. However, I recently had the Czech Pils from a bottle and it was very good. It had that same soft-peaks-egg-whites head that every GB seems to have....
 
rycov- Why call me a ******* for expressing my opinion, without having directed any insults at anyone? Anyhow, I was watching a tv program during the past month or so that was about a brewer at GB, and it showed him brewing- with extracts. Maybe I'm wrong? But my opinion (just an opinion, mind you, which both you and I and every other person has for their own) is that GB beers are not 'great' - Like I said, 'to each his own'

Edit: additionally, it should be understood clearly that communication via text on a computer inadequately conveys tone, feeling and often times intent. Look, friends, if we were all sitting by the fire, enjoying a few, we could much more easily have this conversation without any feathers getting ruffled-

You're right. It's in no way jackassery to tell people that extract beers are bad when so many people use them and make good beers. He should have included the obligatory no offense at the end of his post.
 
Ayinger Oktoberfest last night at Tyler's in Durham. Wow, great stuff. Malty, but not sweet. This stuff is the real deal.

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I tried the Hofbrau out of the bottle. It was not good. Green bottles really destroyed it.

Rahr? Really? I tried it at the Gingerman here in FTW and it was foul. Maybe it was a bad keg.

We got our first taste at Flying Saucer on the lake for glass night, really nice Ofest mugs from Rahr this year that double as coffee mugs in our house. We were pretty impressed with it then, but drinking beers on that nice patio always makes things better. So we bought another sixer in bottles and loved it.

As a side note, Rahr is using different bottles for the Ofest beer that you cant re-cap with a wing capper. The rest of their bottles worked fine in our last batch. Weird.
 
Not my favorite oktoberfest (it tasted more like a helles) but I enjoyed it.

I'm pretty sure that, traditionally, an Oktoberrfest can be more like a Helles. We think of the style as being a marzen, but that a lighter, slightly hoppier version is technically "correct" as well. The Hofbrau I guess is in that vein, although when I've had it, it was so skunked it might as well have been a Heinekin.
 
I'm pretty sure that, traditionally, an Oktoberrfest can be more like a Helles. We think of the style as being a marzen, but that a lighter, slightly hoppier version is technically "correct" as well. The Hofbrau I guess is in that vein, although when I've had it, it was so skunked it might as well have been a Heinekin.

Yeah, when I think of an "oktoberfest-style" beer I think Maerzen, but I know the hofbrau wiesn bier is served at oktoberfest. I think it is falls under the more general term "festbier".
 
After trying many of everyone suggestions, I found Flying Dog to be the tastiest for my palate!
 
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