Empyrean Third Stone Brown

[connord]

My wife and I were in NE the other week and she feel in love with this beer. I was wandering if anyone had a extract clone or a recipe that could get me in the ballpark?

Thanks

 

[Nurmey]

Welcome to HBT!

From their website:
Brewed with American, Canadian and English grown barley and American hops.
Original Gravity: 13.5
IBUs: 13
Alcohol: 5.3% abv

Empyrean Ales

You might try emailing them for detailed information.

 

[connord]

I may have to try that, thanks.

 

[bbrim]

The head brewer is really cool and they support homebrewers. You might be able to get the recipe from them but definitely a list of the malts and hops.

 

[connord]

I sent them an email the other day, but being a long weekend I'm not expecing a fast reply.

 

[tick_daddy]

any luck in obtaining a recipe?

 

[connord]

This is what I got from Jim at Empyrean:
Nothing too fancy in the recipe – grain and hops are something like this:
Pale 2-row = 70%
Marris Otter = 20%
Carastan = 10%
Chocolate = 3% (of total grain for color and flavor)
Original Gravity is 13.5 plato
Hops are Willamette for flavor and aroma at 13 IBU’s
Yeast – just about any American Ale or London Ale variety will get you close, we’re fans of Fullers, Chico and Ringwood.

This is what I used for 5 gal:
7# 2-row
2# MO
1# Carastan
4oz Chocolate
1oz Willamette @45
.5oz Willamette @5
Wyeast 1187

This was my first AG batch, and needles to say I didn't keep very good notes. I haven't made it again, but if I did I would move the first hop addition to later in the boil say to the 25 min mark and up the amount.
It wasn't bad just a bit off from Third Stone.

 

[fifthcircle]

I found this thread via search....because I'm not a total noob
LOL!

I decided to brew this one as my first all grain beer. I will be able to taste it side by side with the Third Stone, since I live in Lincoln. Hope I don't screw it up too awful bad....


Third stone brown

Style: Unassigned OG: 1.057
Type: FG: 1.014
Rating: 0.0 ABV: 5.63 %
Calories: 186 IBU's: 13.98
Efficiency: 70 % Boil Size: 5.83 Gal
Color:***17.9 SRM** Batch Size: 5.00 Gal
Boil Time: 60 minutes
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Fermentation Steps
Name Days / Temp
(none)
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Grains & Adjuncts
Amount Percentage Name Time Gravity
8.00 lbs 70.72 % Pale Malt (2 Row) US 60 mins 1.036
2.00 lbs 17.68 % Pale Malt, Maris Otter 60 mins 1.038
1.00 lbs 8.84 % Caramunich Malt 60 mins 1.033
5.00 ozs 2.76 % Chocolate Malt 60 mins 1.028
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Hops
Amount IBU's Name Time AA %
0.50 ozs 13.98 Pearle 60 mins 8.00
1.00 ozs 0.00 Williamette 0 mins 5.50
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Yeasts
Amount Name Laboratory / ID
1.0 pkg Safale US-05 Fermentis US-05
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Additions
Amount Name Time Stage
1.00 tsp Irish Moss 15 mins Boil
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Mash Profile
Sacch' Rest 90 min @ 152.0°F
*Add 16.97 qt ( 1.50 qt/lb ) water @ 167.4°F
Sparge
*Sparge 14.23 qt of 170.0°F water over 60 mins
*

 

[fifthcircle]

To update, it's good. Slightly on the mellow side of the actual thing, so maybe use a bit more MO and slightly less US 2row.

Other than that, it's really close. If you can't have them side by side, it will be just like you remember....

 

[Omahawk]

My friend wants to brew this. I noticed the Empyrean website lists differnt malt bill now.

Malts: 2-Row, Caramel 60, Midnight Wheat and Biscuit

Anyone rebrewed this recently? The new malt bill looks more American, less English.

 

[Eric_retzlaff]

I hate to revive an old thread, but ever since I started home brewing, which is only a year. I have been trying to clone this recipe, and have gotten it awfully close now. Below is my grain and hops bill, if you need information on anything else, let me know.

Third Stone Brown Clone
7 lbs. American 2-row Pale malt
2 lbs. American Dark Crystal 90L
1 lb. American Victory Malt
1/2 lb. Midnight Wheat
2 oz. Willamette Hops (US) 7.5 AA
1 tsp. Irish Moss
Wyeast American Ale Liquid Yeast