Dry substitute for Wyeast West Yorkshire?

[tiredofbuyingbeer]

I might not be able to scrounge up a strain of Wyeast 1469 for a beer I'd like to brew this weekend. What's the best dry yeast I could use instead? Notty? S-04? Windsor?

 

[crusader1612]

There really isn't a substitute forthis yeast. so unique.

if i had to pick though, id go windsor or S04
alterantively, if you have access to the mangrove jacks yeast get hold of the empire yeast.

 

[brewbama]

Timothy Taylor's best known ale is Landlord, a pale ale, 4.3% abv where West Yorkshire was most likely harvested. 'The Innkeeper' is Northern Brewer's version. As a dry alternative they recommend S-04 which produces a Dry English Ale. If that helps.

Another option is Danstar Windsor or even London ESB.

http://pastbrews.goodloegroup.com/2013/11/dry-yeast-substitution.html

http://www.danstaryeast.com/company/products/windsor-ale-beer-yeast

http://www.danstaryeast.com/company/products/london-esb

 

[tiredofbuyingbeer]

Timothy Taylor's best known ale is Landlord, a pale ale, 4.3% abv where West Yorkshire was most likely harvested. 'The Innkeeper' is Northern Brewer's version. As a dry alternative they recommend S-04 which produces a Dry English Ale. If that helps.

Another option is Danstar Windsor or even London ESB.

http://pastbrews.goodloegroup.com/2013/11/dry-yeast-substitution.html

http://www.danstaryeast.com/company/products/windsor-ale-beer-yeast

http://www.danstaryeast.com/company/products/london-esb

So I know about the Landlord. One of my favorite beers.

Wait a minute, harvest from Landlord? Is it bottle conditioned? 'Cuz I can and will, in the service of brewing, drink a few and try to harvest the yeast in a starter.

 

[crusader1612]

So I know about the Landlord. One of my favorite beers.

Wait a minute, harvest from Landlord? Is it bottle conditioned? 'Cuz I can and will, in the service of brewing, drink a few and try to harvest the yeast in a starter.

generally not.
however black sheep in masham uses the same yeast.
they bottle condition some of their stuff

 

[porterpounder]

Love the West Yorkshire yeast. The Windsor is different, but close enough and also a great yeast.

 

[tiredofbuyingbeer]

generally not.
however black sheep in masham uses the same yeast.
they bottle condition some of their stuff

Got it. I'll look around, but they probably don't have this in Philly. I'll most likely go with 04. Maybe Windsor.

 

[MidAtlanticBrew]

No substitute, If you go with Saf-04, research ferment temp and get it right or suffer the twang. I have not been able to use -04 effectively. Pitch at 63 and fee rise to 66 F with a 4 day clean-up at 69F just gave me 11 gallons with a twang as did a 64F ferment temp a few batches before this one... I have given up on saf-04. I rehydrate, pitch proper QTY, O2 blast wort and end up with fusels....me no likes fusels

 

[sven945]

The temperature range for this yeast is a bit optimistic for West Yorkshire. I'm not sure Shipley has seen temperatures as high as 22ºC for a while!

generally not.
however black sheep in masham uses the same yeast.
they bottle condition some of their stuff

Interesting, Black Sheep got me really into drinking beers, so if that's the case I may have to track some of this down. Is this verifiable anywhere, or just one of those things from the grapevine? (Not that I have any reason not to believe you!)

 

[crusader1612]

The temperature range for this yeast is a bit optimistic for West Yorkshire. I'm not sure Shipley has seen temperatures as high as 22ºC for a while!



Interesting, Black Sheep got me really into drinking beers, so if that's the case I may have to track some of this down. Is this verifiable anywhere, or just one of those things from the grapevine? (Not that I have any reason not to believe you!)

justt of the grapevine, but it can be sporadic. i.e not intentionally bottle conditioned, but more likely to be unfiltered.

 

[tiredofbuyingbeer]

Well, I went with S-04, and I tried the gravity sample for this beer, a mild based on this recipe, plus a little crystal malt for color. (Too lazy to try the authentic method of making brewer's caramel.)

It finished very low (1.005), but it was a low gravity beer to start with. It tastes awesome and not objectionably estery. I started low (62) and let it finish high (66, maybe bumping to 68 for a few hours). The sample was crystal clear. I'm really feeling this yeast.

I'll try making it again for autumn with the Timothy Taylor yeast.