Irish Red Ale "Drunken Lullaby" Irish Red

[joeirvine]

Well, it's been three days and it's still fermenting like a beast. A bubble every 2 and half seconds. It started at 70 for the first day and now 59 for the past two days. I think it will be just find. Just going to have to rack to the bottling bucket rather than using the autosyphon.

Thanks for the help everyone.

 

[dangerbrew]

how did it turn out? any pics?

 

[theshoe82]

What do you folks think of using WLP 002 as a yeast instead of the Notty?

 

[tweezer159]

Hey Y'all,

I'm planning on brewing up this "Drunken Lullaby" tommorow and I have a couple of questions.

“DRUNKEN LULLABY” IRISH RED 2010 (ST. PADDY’S BREW – first made in ‘09)
Ingredients:
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Amount Item
6.00 lbs. Pale Liquid Malt Extract
0.50 lbs. Vienna Malt
0.25 lbs. Flaked Barley
0.10 lbs. Roasted Barley
0.75 lbs. Cara-Pils/Dextrine (Carafoam 1.5-2 L)
1.00 lbs. Cara/Crystal Malt 60L
1.00 lbs. Torrified Wheat – (for head retention)

1.00 oz Fuggles (boil 60 min.)
0.50 oz. Irish Moss (boil 15 min.)
1.00 oz East Kent Goldings (boil 5 min.)
1.00 lbs. Brown Sugar (boil 5 min.)

Safale US-04


First of all, I ordered my ingredients online, and even though i asked for everything to be milled, they sent my torrified wheat and flaked barley un-milled. Was this intentional by the supplier? Should i put them in the mash unmilled?

Second - Do you use light or dark brown sugar? Does it make much of a difference?

Wish me luck, as this will be my first partial-mash.



JDY

 

[Chris7687]

Hey AG Brewers that have made this, is 2 Row still the choice for the base? I was thinking of using Maris Otter as the base. Thoughts?

 

[dangerbrew]

First of all, I ordered my ingredients online, and even though i asked for everything to be milled, they sent my torrified wheat and flaked barley un-milled. Was this intentional by the supplier? Should i put them in the mash unmilled?

Second - Do you use light or dark brown sugar? Does it make much of a difference?

Wish me luck, as this will be my first partial-mash.


JDY

If the wheat and barley are flaked, they don't need to be milled.

As for light or dark brown sugar, doesn't make a huge difference, except slightly in terms of color.

Good luck!

 

[dangerbrew]

Hey AG Brewers that have made this, is 2 Row still the choice for the base? I was thinking of using Maris Otter as the base. Thoughts?

Probably be more authentic to use Maris Otter. Let me know how that turns out if you do it.

 

[Chris7687]

I just made a ESB with Maris Otter and it gave it a really nice ruby-copper color that I like. Still fermenting, so haven't tasted it but would think a old-time, traditional barley like Maris Otter would be a good base for this. Going to make next week, I'll let ya know how it turns out.

 

[Redcloak66]

Thanks for the Recipe, I have this in my primary now, should be hitting the secondary in a day or so. Sucks i won't get to try it out for about a month but i'm sure it will be worth the wait.

 

[dangerbrew]

Thanks for the Recipe, I have this in my primary now, should be hitting the secondary in a day or so. Sucks i won't get to try it out for about a month but i'm sure it will be worth the wait.

Always is. I'm thinking about doing one next month - feeling the need haha. Hope yours turns out well!

 

[diptherunner]

Dangerbrew,

I'm going to brew this up later this week, but in your revised recipe did you use leaf or pellet hops? Other an 10% increase in leaf quantity, any other benefits or consequences? Thanks!

 

[Redcloak66]

Thanks again Danger , pulled a few pints off the tap this weekend and was very happy with the results. Will be brewing this up again in the future for sure.

 

[wobblymadman]

Hello Dangerbrew... I read all the glowing reviews on here for Drunken Lullaby, and decided it would be the recipe of choice for my second partial mash attempt. I dropped the pale ale malt back and did a late addition of LME and DME. It looked fantastic and I caught hints of a rich red coppery colour as I transferred it to the fermenter. Thoroughly enjoyed my brew day and can't wait to knock the top off the first bottle of Drunken Lullaby.

What i thought you might be interested in, is that I am brewing your fine recipe down in New Zealand. If I posted a recipe, I'd be fascinated to hear what parts of the World it was being brewed. Maybe one of these brew sites will include geotagging brew locations in the future...

Anyway, cheers mate!

 

[diptherunner]

Likewise! I have a "Drunken lullabies" in the secondary right now, coming up on 2 weeks. Bottling, next weekend and with luck, drinking soon! Your brew recipe made it to upstate New York. Thanks! It looks and tastes great so far.

 

[dpeanut7]

Is it possible to make this as an extract batch? If so, what adjustments need to be made? Any help would be appreciated, I really want to try and brew this on Saturday!

 

[dangerbrew]

Hello Dangerbrew... I read all the glowing reviews on here for Drunken Lullaby, and decided it would be the recipe of choice for my second partial mash attempt. I dropped the pale ale malt back and did a late addition of LME and DME. It looked fantastic and I caught hints of a rich red coppery colour as I transferred it to the fermenter. Thoroughly enjoyed my brew day and can't wait to knock the top off the first bottle of Drunken Lullaby.

What i thought you might be interested in, is that I am brewing your fine recipe down in New Zealand. If I posted a recipe, I'd be fascinated to hear what parts of the World it was being brewed. Maybe one of these brew sites will include geotagging brew locations in the future...

Anyway, cheers mate!

Awesome, man! Glad to hear it's made the trip over the big water!! If you can take any pictures and post them that would be amazing - love to see them - and definitely enjoy the lullaby, my friend.

 

[dangerbrew]

Thanks again Danger , pulled a few pints off the tap this weekend and was very happy with the results. Will be brewing this up again in the future for sure.

Great! - glad you like the recipe - I'm brewing a batch of it next month to sip on over thanksgiving and the holidays.

 

[dangerbrew]

Likewise! I have a "Drunken lullabies" in the secondary right now, coming up on 2 weeks. Bottling, next weekend and with luck, drinking soon! Your brew recipe made it to upstate New York. Thanks! It looks and tastes great so far.

Nice!! Let me know how it turns out when you crack one open! :rockin:

 

[dangerbrew]

Is it possible to make this as an extract batch? If so, what adjustments need to be made? Any help would be appreciated, I really want to try and brew this on Saturday!

Hey man - i went ahead and tried my best to convert it to an extract-only recipe here for you - won't be exactly the same, but you can go ahead and give it a try - should be somewhat close depending on the extract you get.

Also, don't forget to add the irish moss 15 min before the end of the boil!

Let me know how this works out for you. I'd be interested to see.

Drunken Lullaby extract - Irish Red Ale
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Batch Size: 5.250 gal
Boil Size: 6.200 gal
Boil Time: 0.000 s
Efficiency: 70%
OG: 1.063
FG: 1.016
ABV: 6.2%
Bitterness: 27.1 IBUs (Tinseth)
Color: 13 SRM (Mosher)

Fermentables
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Name Type Amount Mashed Late Yield Color
Amber Liquid Extract Extract 9.000 lb No No 78% 13 L
Brown Sugar, Dark Sugar 8.000 oz No Yes 100% 50 L

Hops
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Name Alpha Amount Use Time Form IBU
Fuggles 4.5% 2.000 oz Boil 40.000 min Pellet 23.8
Kent Goldings 5.5% 1.000 oz Boil 5.000 min Pellet 3.3

Yeast
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Name Type Form Amount Stage
Safale S-04 Ale Dry 0.388 oz Primary

 

[dpeanut7]

Thanks! I'll be sure to let you know how it turns out!

 

[dpeanut7]

Danger,

I'm so sorry for being super annoying, but I have another question/request. So I looked at the extract bill, and without any specialty grains, I felt like i was really missing on your recipe. My thoughts were, Eff it, if I'm going to make a Drunken Lullaby, I'm going to do it as intended (everyone seems to love it). So I just got back from the LHBS, and have all of the ingredients (your 2nd version). Herein lies my problem, I asked him what the differences are and for possible instructions on partial mash, and he basically said its different for every recipe. Any chance you are any of the faithful Drunken lullaby followers can help me with the actual brew instructions? Basically, Mash temp, mash time, sparge temp, maybe like how much water used per step? I guess whatever you think I would need that is different from Extract brewing.

Huge help if you do, otherwise, thanks for the previous extract recipe and your time.

 

[TroutSlayer]

Just ordered the ingredients for this today. The LHBS doesn't have a great variety. It'll be my first beer not using a kit. Still using LME and partial mash. Also ordered Wyeast 1099 for it. I'll check back in a couple weeks!

Oh, I guess this is my first post! I've been lurking for years but just downloaded the iPhone app!

 

[dangerbrew]

Danger,

I'm so sorry for being super annoying, but I have another question/request. So I looked at the extract bill, and without any specialty grains, I felt like i was really missing on your recipe. My thoughts were, Eff it, if I'm going to make a Drunken Lullaby, I'm going to do it as intended (everyone seems to love it). So I just got back from the LHBS, and have all of the ingredients (your 2nd version). Herein lies my problem, I asked him what the differences are and for possible instructions on partial mash, and he basically said its different for every recipe. Any chance you are any of the faithful Drunken lullaby followers can help me with the actual brew instructions? Basically, Mash temp, mash time, sparge temp, maybe like how much water used per step? I guess whatever you think I would need that is different from Extract brewing.

Huge help if you do, otherwise, thanks for the previous extract recipe and your time.

Hey man,

good on ya for brewing the true recipe! as far as a partial mash schedule goes, if you're able to do a step mash by having the grains in a cheesecloth bag or whatnot, I would say to do a protein rest at around 125 F for 30 min and then raise it up to 155 F for about 10 minutes and then up again to 160 and leave that sit for about 15 minutes and that should do the trick for the actual mash. (make sure you lift the bag up while heating up the water so it doesn't scorch) For sparging, at least 170 F and I wouldn't do more than a gallon and a quarter i'd say - this is just off the top of my head but should work out fine.

 

[wobblymadman]

As promised, a photo (I hope!) of my Kiwi brewed version of Drunken Lullaby. Done as a partial mash, I'm very happy with the result. The colour is stunning. The smooth flavour is spot on, reminiscent of Murphy's Irish red, and it has a nice smooth mouth feel.

For all you Northern Hemisphere brewers who are considering what hearty dark winter warmers to brew next, this pic was taken on a gorgeous 31 degree (88F) afternoon just outside Christchurch, New Zealand. 'Tis the season for chilled refreshing summer ales here in the South!

Many thanks to DangerBrew for the excellent recipe.

 

[tonyscha]

With Saint Patrick's days right around the corner, I have been thinking about making this as my first 5 gallon batch.

I currently have a Mr. Beer kit, I think everyone here calls it a LBK, and made two kits in there, and 3 batches from ingredients from my LHBS. The first batch was drinkable (suppose to be wheat beer, but was a dark cloudy Belgium ale), second batch is in bottles right now, nice amber ale but a little bitter, and my third batch is another wheat beer that's fermenting right now, but looks awesome from samples I took.

I am planning on buying a 5 gallon starter kit this weekend and make this beer. Which recipe do you like better the 2009 or 2010 version? I am leaning toward the 2010 version due to the lower IBUs, I dont like bitter beer, and I want to share this with my neighbors who drink light beers.

Could I cut the IBUs down a little more by only adding .75oz of fuggles, or will that mess with the flavor to much?

 

[dangerbrew]

With Saint Patrick's days right around the corner, I have been thinking about making this as my first 5 gallon batch.

I currently have a Mr. Beer kit, I think everyone here calls it a LBK, and made two kits in there, and 3 batches from ingredients from my LHBS. The first batch was drinkable (suppose to be wheat beer, but was a dark cloudy Belgium ale), second batch is in bottles right now, nice amber ale but a little bitter, and my third batch is another wheat beer that's fermenting right now, but looks awesome from samples I took.

I am planning on buying a 5 gallon starter kit this weekend and make this beer. Which recipe do you like better the 2009 or 2010 version? I am leaning toward the 2010 version due to the lower IBUs, I dont like bitter beer, and I want to share this with my neighbors who drink light beers.

Could I cut the IBUs down a little more by only adding .75oz of fuggles, or will that mess with the flavor to much?

Actually, let me hit you up and all the rest of group with the most up-to-date Drunken Lullaby Recipe that I'm going to be brewing on Monday for this year's St. Paddys:

"Drunken Lullaby" Irish Red - Irish Red Ale - St. Paddy's 2013 Edition
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Batch Size: 5.250 gal
Boil Size: 6.200 gal
Boil Time: 0.000 s
Efficiency: 70%
OG: 1.064
FG: 1.016
ABV: 6.3%
Bitterness: 26.0 IBUs (Tinseth)
Color: 14 SRM (Mosher)

Fermentables
=========================================================
Name Type Amount Mashed Late Yield Color
Pale Liquid Extract Extract 6.000 lb Yes No 78% 8 L
Barley, Flaked Grain 4.000 oz Yes No 70% 2 L
Roasted Barley Grain 1.600 oz Yes No 55% 300 L
Carafoam Grain 12.000 oz Yes No 72% 2 L
Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L Grain 16.000 oz Yes No 74% 60 L
Wheat, Torrified Grain 16.000 oz Yes No 79% 2 L
Brown Sugar, Dark Sugar 8.000 oz No Yes 100% 50 L
Pale Malt (2 Row) US Grain 16.000 oz Yes No 79% 2 L
Munich Malt Grain 8.000 oz Yes No 80% 9 L

Hops
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Name Alpha Amount Use Time Form IBU
Kent Goldings 5.8% 1.000 oz Boil 22.000 min Pellet 11.2
Fuggles 4.8% 1.000 oz Boil 1.167 hr Pellet 14.8

Misc
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Name Type Use Amount Time
Irish Moss Fining Boil 0.000 tsp 0.000 s

Yeast
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Name Type Form Amount Stage
Safale S-05 Ale Dry 2.232 tsp Primary


As far as your question goes, yeah you can cut down on the bittering hops if you want but I wouldn't go too far - it's pretty well balanced as it is considering and not very hoppy. I think you'll like the results if you follow the recipe, but you can always mess around with the recipe in a brewing software like beersmith or promash and adjust as needed. Have a great St. Paddy's everyone!!

 

[tonyscha]

As far as your question goes, yeah you can cut down on the bittering hops if you want but I wouldn't go too far - it's pretty well balanced as it is considering and not very hoppy. I think you'll like the results if you follow the recipe, but you can always mess around with the recipe in a brewing software like beersmith or promash and adjust as needed. Have a great St. Paddy's everyone!!

Thanks for the update, I actually brewed before you replied, I did go ahead and only used .75 of the fuggles. I cant wait to try this, as its my first 5 gallon batch. I will post back once I get it bottles and had a chance to consume.

 

[ifnotuthenwho]

Just finished brewing a batch of Drunken Lullaby. It's transferred to the primary and I'm ready to see fermentation start.

My OG was a little low, 1.052 at 77 degrees, but I only have a 5 gallon brew kettle and I had to add water to the primary to get it to 5.25 gallons. I'm gonna have to invest in a larger brew kettle.

The color looked absolutely perfect for an Irish Red. I'm looking forward to bottling it in a couple weeks and drinking it around the 1st of March.

Thanks for posting the recipe Dangerbrew.

 

[tonyscha]

Just finished brewing a batch of Drunken Lullaby. It's transferred to the primary and I'm ready to see fermentation start.

My OG was a little low, 1.052 at 77 degrees, but I only have a 5 gallon brew kettle and I had to add water to the primary to get it to 5.25 gallons. I'm gonna have to invest in a larger brew kettle.

The color looked absolutely perfect for an Irish Red. I'm looking forward to bottling it in a couple weeks and drinking it around the 1st of March.

Thanks for posting the recipe Dangerbrew.

ifnotuthenwho, mine was the same OG @~78f

Cant wait for March to roll around!

 

[ifnotuthenwho]

ifnotuthenwho, mine was the same OG @~78f

Cant wait for March to roll around!

Thanks for letting me know Tony. Did you brew today?

My beer has been in the primary for 2.5 hours and I already have burps in the airlock. That Safale yeast is really active.