Drip tray with glass washer - makes me hap-hap-happppy

[day_trippr]

Yup, 15 psi. Presumably the risk of excessive pressure is blowing out the rinser valve itself.

fwiw, my rinser water is ~36°F and just 2-3 seconds on the rinser will significantly drop the glass temperature.
In light of that I would say the rinser's job is to neutralize nucleation sites and bring the glass temperature closer to the beer temperature.
All leading to keeping the original carbonation in the beer

Cheers!

 

[passedpawn]

Here's the drip tray installed in the granite counter. All I have left to do now for my bar is maple front around the wine fridge and beer fridge, and get the gylcol chiller connected and cooling the cobra tap. Woot!

 

[day_trippr]

Mascarello granite?

 

[passedpawn]

Mascarello granite?

Not sure. Neighbors were ripping out a kitchen (they want white marble) and tossed 4 slabs of this stuff. I just grabbed a piece and had somebody polish and cut it for me. It has a lot of these opalescent flecks in it, so if the light hits it right it has interesting sparkly constellations. They bookmatched the back- and side-splashes so that the markings flowed from the counter to the sides.

 

[day_trippr]

The picture in this thread looks like mascarello, with lots of cream and various orange-ish oxidized earth tone blends for which that the type is known. The darker pic in the other thread you posted today doesn't look like it, but that may be the shot. There's a huge process filling voids and pits in the type, and the producers use all kinds of epoxies with glitter and stuff.

Nicely done, btw, but I am waiting to see a frosted cobra

Cheers

 

[jcav]

Looks amazing!

John

 

[cfrazier77]

great looking bar top there

 

[Bago-0]

Looks great! Been thinking of installing a glasswasher. Just picked up Space Grass this week!

 

[DNLA]

Hello there beer and kegerator experts!! I dont know a whole lot about this stuff so I am desperate to find some answers on a kegerator I have going into a clients new build. We are doing an undercounter kegerator with a cabinet front to make it look seamless. The CounterTop will be marble. My client is really hoping to have a drip tray that sinks into the counter with a functioning drain and a glass rinse option. Is there any way to make this work with our built in unit right below it, given that the unit comes right to the underside of the counter ???
Or how are these trays usually planned for and made feasible!? Maybe I need to recommend a different setup than the built in unit my client is eyeing!?
Any input or feedback would be appreciated!

 

[day_trippr]

The problem is "turning the corner" on plumbing to the rinser and from the drain. This image of a small rinser shows the typical plumbing fit-up found on most trays, and illustrates the challenge. If a counter top is thick enough or if there's actually some dead space between fridge and counter top or a combination of both one might be able to trench the underside to fit elbows and run appropriate water and drain tubes past the outline of the fridge. The length of the threaded drain receiver is roughly 3/4", while the rinser stem is closer to a couple of inches and is likely the governing dimension in the end...

Cheers!

 

[DNLA]

The problem is "turning the corner" on plumbing to the rinser and from the drain. This image of a small rinser shows the typical plumbing fit-up found on most trays, and illustrates the challenge. If a counter top is thick enough or if there's actually some dead space between fridge and counter top or a combination of both one might be able to trench the underside to fit elbows and run appropriate water and drain tubes past the outline of the fridge. The length of the threaded drain receiver is roughly 3/4", while the rinser stem is closer to a couple of inches and is likely the governing dimension in the end...

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Cheers!

Hey there
Thank you for this info
That makes sense and is what i feared
As there wont be enough clearnce to the bottom of counter; and the counter is only 2cm plus finicky marble so it would not be able to trench …
I suppose the question then is what type of setup allows for this type of drip tray? They are meant to sit into the counter meaning the keg setup would be below it (i think) - but any kegerators ive seen seem to be counter height or higher. Would the beertap and tray have to sit over to the side of the kegerator unit or are there certain units that acoomodate these type of sunken plumbed trays

 

[day_trippr]

I would fathom most common application of rinser-trays are found in situations where the beer is located elsewhere (eg: cold room) allowing plenty of under-counter access. Second order usage might be on commercial kegerator units, perhaps followed by domestic applications: as noted early in this thread I have a surface mounted drip tray with integrated rinser mounted on my keezer's custom fab'd lid. I had the requisite space under the lid to route the plumbing.

Bottom line - and this applies not just to drip trays but tap towers as well - if you have an under counter fridge that is a tight vertical fit, lots of stuff gets hard to do...

Cheers!

 

[passedpawn]

Mine is all working great. Will get more pics up here shortly. Making cheese right now - requires some attention.

 

[passedpawn]

Hey there
Thank you for this info
That makes sense and is what i feared
As there wont be enough clearnce to the bottom of counter; and the counter is only 2cm plus finicky marble so it would not be able to trench …
I suppose the question then is what type of setup allows for this type of drip tray? They are meant to sit into the counter meaning the keg setup would be below it (i think) - but any kegerators ive seen seem to be counter height or higher. Would the beertap and tray have to sit over to the side of the kegerator unit or are there certain units that acoomodate these type of sunken plumbed trays

You need to build the counter to accommodate the rinser. There's no other way that I could find. If you already have a counter you're trying to integrate it into, It's a problem. I knew my dimensions and built a frame to support the new granite. Granite guys milled the slot for the tray, and the hole for the tap, in my driveway. Was actually pretty easy.

One thing I considered a LOT was to move the tap away from the kegerator. But ultimately, that caused more problems and uncertainties than doing it the way I did. Which is shown below.

BTW, my intention was to have this tap coated with frost. Sadly, my glycol chiller (behind my house) is only 1/6 HP and can only get it down to mid 40's. It's great for beer drinking, but for aesthetic purposes I'm disappointed and back in the market for better.

 

[Pkrd]

I love the light!

 

[Oleson M.D.]

We have a glass washer. It's called a sink and faucet! In the bar. Also we have a dishwasher installed in the bar to handle washing a bunch of glasses after a large gathering.

The only place I have seen a glass rinse setup is in Europe. In the Heineken Brewery (Amsterdam), for example.

Love that Cobra tower!

 

[passedpawn]

I love the light!

Me too. Here's what it looks like (photo before I built the bar). The guy on Etsy that used to make them doesn't list them anymore. There are other similar ones out there (they are actually pine cones, but looks like a hop bud to me )

 

[passedpawn]

Nicely done, btw, but I am waiting to see a frosted cobra

Cheers

It's getting there. I don't think I get enough flow to it from the chiller, so I'm increasing the tubing ID next week (wife goes out of town, I make messes).

 

[pinemarten]

Any potential downsides to using well carbonated water? I keep a keg of unflavored seltzer/water living in my keezer. If I tee off that keg and use a reducer to get the pressure under 15, would that work fine?

 

[day_trippr]

I'd expect blasting ~3 volume carbonated water out of the rinser head would be interesting to observe but it'd probably work ok...

Cheers!

 

[balrog]

wife goes out of town, I make messes

I realize this is way late, but I gotta say, you have a superb T-Shirt possibility with that phrase.