Drinking my first all grain batch

[bernerbrau]

But, versatile does not mean the best.

Versatile does not mean great, though, or especially interesting, and can also mean an absence of a solid identity.

In any case, BEING VERSATILE DOES NOT MEAN BEING GREAT !! Bernard Herrmann was not versatile, but he was a genuis !!

Being versatile does not mean being more skilled.

But if you won't accept what the dictionary says, or listen to people who actually know what versatile means, then by all means, you're free to take any definition of versatile you want.

However, the poster did not use the definition you're insisting upon, so your attack on the opinion that AG is more versatile than extract - meaning, capable of producing a wider variety of beers - is entirely moot.

 

[DeathBrewer]

shecky, what denny is asking is whether you are a top or a bottom?

 

[shecky]

Are you saying you don't have the time?

Or you are you not capable of or adapted for turning easily from one to another of various tasks, capable of many uses, or variable or changeable?

Oh, I have the time, just not the inclination.
As for the second part, yes.

shecky, what denny is asking is whether you are a top or a bottom?

Depends on my mood, really.

 

[beerkrump]

shecky, what denny is asking is whether you are a top or a bottom?

He's a middleman.

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

Oh, I have the time, just not the inclination.
As for the second part, yes.


Depends on my mood, really.

Strap-on?

 

[HBHoss]

Strap-on?

Then he goes by the name "Lucky Pierre".

 

[bernerbrau]

He's a middleman.

Shecky, is this you?

 

[IrregularPulse]

Way to ruin someones post you guys! To bad you're not versatile enough to actually help in the beer related threads, Maybe if you had more time you could improve your veratility.

From the Oscar Vesbutin Dictionary : "Versatility is the measure how something is compared to an often thought inferior method or model base soley on time, energy, or a combination of both."

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

Shecky, is this you?

Now I understand his "hamburger" reference.

 

[DeathBrewer]

Tell me I'm wrong and tell me all the reasons that All grain makes a superior product over modern extract

OK, fine...back on point.

Example: All-grain makes a superior Roggenbier, since you cannot steep rye.
Not only is extract inferior in this regard, but it's simply impossible to do.

 

[IrregularPulse]

Staying far, far away from this. I'm not versatile enough to provide anything worthwhile.

OK, fine...back on point.

Example: All-grain makes a superior Roggenbier, since you cannot steep rye.
Not only is extract inferior in this regard, but it's simply impossible to do.

Case in point. You simply cannot make all the beers with extract that you can with Grain. Thus making it more Versatile and better as a general beer method. Nobody ever said a pale ale made with Grain will necessarily be better than the same one made with extract, Thats what you're missing here.

How do you post a youtube link without it directly linking the damn video

 

[Picobrew]

I can make any beer I want with AG and I enjoy the process. With extract, I can't make any kind of beer, but it was much quicker.

Also, before I started brewing all grain, I could fit my Nissan Versa and my surplus Tile in my garage. Now it is just full of kegs and buckets and hoses.

 

[bob1852]

how can you make an AG version of amber DME?

 

[DeathBrewer]

pale malt with a small amount of crystal and munich malts, IIRC.

 

[bob1852]

pale malt with a small amount of crystal and munich malts, IIRC.

yes, but does anyone know the ratio?

 

[DeathBrewer]

Nope. Unless you can get someone from a malting company to cough up the details.

I'm sure you can get close, tho, just by guessing and testing.

 

[Token]

Also, before I started brewing all grain, I could fit my Nissan Versa and my surplus Tile in my garage. Now it is just full of kegs and buckets and hoses.

Love it!!

 

[Denny's Evil Concoctions]

OK, fine...back on point.

Example: All-grain makes a superior Roggenbier, since you cannot steep rye.
Not only is extract inferior in this regard, but it's simply impossible to do.

Well.... technically you can steep malted rye but it's really messy and gummy and not really worth it.

FOr a roggen you'd have to use 50% rye malt or more so DB is correct here.

I have never seen a rye extract

 

[DeathBrewer]

It's really gummy and messy when you're mashing it. The point is it MUST be mashed. You're not going to get much from it steeping, and you certainly can't make a roggenbier that way.

My first partial mash was with rye...by accident. I thought I was steeping

 

[Beavdowg]

This might of been one of the funniest posts I've ever seen on here! I'm on my lunch break at work and crying in laughter while reading these. Thanks for the entertainement!!

 

[carl spakler]

For the record I've lived in Illinois, New York, California, New Mexico and Tennessee. I've been from Hawaii to Alaska to Canada to Mexico to Wales and never once read a dictionary that specified, or heard someone say "versatile" with the usage that you claim to be correct.

Please keep reading, it will keep you out of society.

By chance are you an engineer?

 

[DeathBrewer]

lol, dude just admit you used a poor choice of words, instead of trying to insult people. It's funny, tho, so it's fine if you want to keep it up

 

[Synovia]

Time does not affect the versatility of AG at all.

Sure it does.


Extract Brewing is more versatile in the sense that it can be used in a wider variety of conditions (time, space, lack of powerful cooking apparatus, etc)

AG is more versatile in the sense that it can produce a wider range of beers.


Both camps are right here, one is just really poor at explaining it, and really obnoxious.

 

[bernerbrau]

Sure it does.


Extract Brewing is more versatile in the sense that it can be used in a wider variety of conditions (time, space, lack of powerful cooking apparatus, etc)

AG is more versatile in the sense that it can produce a wider range of beers.


Both camps are right here, one is just really poor at explaining it, and really obnoxious.

You know, that's a decent point. If someone else hadn't spent their entire time trying to insult me and tell me I'm wrong and closed-minded and instead had tried to elaborate on their thinking, this thread might not have gotten so out of hand.

 

[IrregularPulse]

Sure it does.


Extract Brewing is more versatile in the sense that it can be used in a wider variety of conditions (time, space, lack of powerful cooking apparatus, etc)

AG is more versatile in the sense that it can produce a wider range of beers.


Both camps are right here, one is just really poor at explaining it, and really obnoxious.

The Hero of the day!!

 

[beerkrump]

Sure it does.


Extract Brewing is more versatile in the sense that it can be used in a wider variety of conditions (time, space, lack of powerful cooking apparatus, etc)

AG is more versatile in the sense that it can produce a wider range of beers.


Both camps are right here, one is just really poor at explaining it, and really obnoxious.

SNAP!!!!!!

 

[carl spakler]

lol, dude just admit you used a poor choice of words, instead of trying to insult people. It's funny, tho, so it's fine if you want to keep it up

You must really get annoyed when there is more than one answer to a question.

 

[hopvine]

This thread turned into an abortion

 

[DeathBrewer]

You must really get annoyed when there is more than one answer to a question.

Oh, I like multiple answers. I have dozens of different configurations for my brewery and at times, I use all extract and dump it directly into a bucket!

So was Synovia right? Is that what you meant?

 

[carl spakler]

Both camps are right here, one is just really poor at explaining it, and really obnoxious.

Nice way to add a little jab and really emphasize just how juvenile you are. Luckily with school back in session your remedial homework should keep you busy.