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Regardless of the "front door" control, which is Keith's end of the bargain, I think that we are obliged not to help if we suspect there is a conflict (legal, etc) that will place the existance of this site in jeopardy.
 
I'm 19... will you help me out? but then again, I am from Australia, where the age to brew, drink and drive is 18.. so techincally your not breaking the law as its legal for where I come from! :D gota love a liberal society. But, I think that a 21 year old age limit for new members is ridiculous. Just because the majority of you are American, and the age is 21 in America, does not give you the right to enforce an age limit on your boards. Rather, there should be a ban like on most adult websites, which states "you must be of legal age in your locality" IE, you must be 18 or over, unless your specific countries laws state otherwise. So rather then a blanket ban on all the other countries which do not have a 21 age limit, there should be a legal barrier to minors in the country that they are accessing from...
 
I wish my country recognized full rights of adulthood like Austrailia. Instead we give it in stages. For some things a 12 year old might be considered an adult. At 18 we can vote and also fight and die in uniform. But, we must wait till 21 to legally have a drink. And because of this sort of inequity, these laws will go mostly ignored.
 
I haven't chimed in as yet, because I don't really have strong feelings about this. If I think it's a kid breaking the law, I just don't respond.

But, even at 19- the poster above is articulate and reasonable. If he didn't say, "I'm 19", I would have had no idea whether he was 21 or 41. I don't like the posts that say, "can u smel it bad if i hde it unner my bed in the dorms?" We're here to enjoy our hobby- not to run a school for illicit prison hooch. If you are articulate and passionate about the hobby, not just trying to make cheap booze, you've got my respect. And as we all know, homebrewing is NOT a cheap hobby. If I want cheap, I'd go buy a case of Busch light. Homebrewing to me is about craftsmanship, just like great cooking. It's an art and science, as well as a kick a** hobby.

Orfy is right, I've got to move on to less boring topics. I've got much more to learn about batch sparging, water ph, recipes, etc.

Lorena
 
Just thought I'd point out that according to the 21st amendment (my personal favorite) STATES and not the national government set the drinking age, which is why many of you older brewers remember the legal age being 18. However, as time passed the Federal Gov't decided that they wanted a say and so all states yielded their power to set the legal drinking age to the federal government so that they could continue to get federal money. So for all of you that are worried about the dorm brewer getting brewing outlawed, it would have to be done at the state level. As this is the case, most state politicians are more apt to listen to the voting public and so I think that we can all relax and have a homebrew and not worry about this 19 year old getting us all put on the FBI's most wanted list. On another note, I am all for this guy brewing if he would enjoy the beer as most of us do, for quality, taste, etc. If he is just looking for a better way to get hammered on the weekend (what I was looking for in college) then let him go elsewhere.
 
The Feds got the states to up the drinking age to 21 by withholding matching highway funds to those that did not comply. Some states like New York used to allow drinking of beer and wine at 18 and distilled spirits at 21.

The point of raising the age to 21 was to reduce DUI accidents among those 18 to 21. But the reality is that while this idea might have looked good on paper, it didn't work because it might be easier for them to get and use hard drugs than alcohol.
 
olllllo said:
The acceptability of online forums and social networking is where danger of losing THIS forum comes into play. Many forums go under because they cannot do an acceptable job of regulating content. There is the federal COPA law to consider as well.
The COPA law states that it is only illegal to make "any communication for commercial purposes that is available to any minor". This is not for commercial use and yes, I am under 21, but legally I am not a minor. If I get arrested for public intoxication, it is public intoxication, not Minor In Consumption. And because all of you are so concerned (anal) I do not think I will ever return to this site and if I can I am going to terminate my account.
 
tmabbotutep said:
And because all of you are so concerned (anal) I do not think I will ever return to this site and if I can I am going to terminate my account.

You got he anal right but you forgot to call us elitist and c**ts.
Our youth are so far behind the rest of the world...
 
I hope you come back, utep. This forum is a great resource for an awesome hobby and I hope the welcome you got doesn't persuade you to abandon it. I have a feeling that your question about the smell was out of consideration for your roomate(s) given what you said about your RA. Let us know how it comes out.
 
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