I have a problem with choke collars, prong collars, shock collars, salt shot, cattle prongs, electric fences, and other devices of negative reinforcement. I'm not a bleeding heart liberal. I believe most people deserve more beatings than they ever receive. you believe an animal is doing something you don't like then it's ok for you to inflict pain on them. I feel the same way about humans. Mark Twain said that if you wanted to see the dregs of society, go down to your local jail and watch the changing of the guards. I say we need to go no farther than our own mirrors.