CBMbrewer
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The founder of stone acts like his **** don't stink which bothers me.
I try and think of that as his 'schtick'... He did right the/a book on IPA's.
The founder of stone acts like his **** don't stink which bothers me.
Oceantendency said:Ballast Point is incredibly huge out here in San Diego out here, you would be pretty stupid not to work with them. Ballast Point also has it own LBHS, so of course you'd like to be connected to Ballast Point.
Oceantendency said:Did you go to every single MLPA meetings and Blue Ribbon Task Force like my wife and I to speak out against the MLPA process and the stupid closures that we were based on old "Scientific Data" and bad science. research the financial contributors to the MLPA process; You'll find STONE is a financial contributor to it and actions speak louder than words. Ballast Point is incredibly huge out here in San Diego out here, you would be pretty stupid not to work with them. Ballast Point also has it own LBHS, so of course you'd like to be connected to Ballast Point. I didn't know STONE had its own restaurant. Not trying to rub anybody the wrong way, but that's the deal. But if you like Stone and want to support that, then ok. You can also Contact the Waterman's alliance directly, and I'm sure they can easily supply you with the correct document.
I don't know anything about the MLPA and how it is against fishermen. What are you an your wife fighting for? I am curious from your first hand experience.
CBMbrewer said:I try and think of that as his 'schtick'... He did right the/a book on IPA's.
ZenFitness said:the owner does come off as a ****** when I've seen him... seems a bit too arrogant and high on the horse
Hell, as someone else pointed out: He serves fish in his restaurant, even though it's probably only "responsibly" grown or caught fish or whatever they call it.
Several people asked about the beer bottle date app...its called mibeerage, $1.99 and for iphone only. The app is getting there.
Fresh beer only is a nice website that helps you translate codes or tells if a brewery even lists them but is not really useful in a store.
Just annoying that several "top" breweries wouldn't think consumers want to know if there beer is fresh.
Ballast Point also has it own LBHS, so of course you'd like to be connected to Ballast Point. I didn't know STONE had its own restaurant.
You live in Vista and you didn't know Stone had it's own restaurant? Seriously? In fact, they have more than one...
Also, Ballast Point is NOT bigger than Stone. You have it backwards, Ballast Point would love to be connected with Stone.
Bizarre post...
jbaysurfer said:Seriously. Thought the same thing. Airing a vendetta, but clearly not representing the facts very well=Bad mix.
jbaysurfer said:Stone is a complete brewery...almost.
Seriously. Thought the same thing. Airing a vendetta, but clearly not representing the facts very well=Bad mix. 80% of the commercial fisherman in my town (a much smaller port, but with a healthy commercial fisherman population) have Surfrider stickers on their trucks FWIW. Surfrider is behind that legislation not Stone.
Sounds like Stones reputation as a one trick pony is mostly with people who don't live in the SoCal market. Glad that I get beers like Enjoy by, Vertical Epic, Sublimely Self Righteous, Double Bastard, Smoke Porter (a BJCP Callibration beer fwiw, not a hoppy beer at all) regularly in my bottle shops. Stone is a complete brewery...almost. The don't have a lager portfolio, but that's probably driven by market demand.
evrose said:Agree regarding Stone being almost complete. I would love to see them do a lager. Would also like to see a wheat. I'm not a huge hophead, but still very much appreciated what Stone does. Two of my favorite commercial beers are their smoked Porter and RIS. And their annual Anniversary party is not to be missed if you like beer and live within a 20 hour drive.
You live in Vista and you didn't know Stone had it's own restaurant? Seriously? In fact, they have more than one...
Also, Ballast Point is NOT bigger than Stone. You have it backwards, Ballast Point would love to be connected with Stone.
Bizarre post...
So what I'm not cool because I don't go to various parts of Escondido??My Spanish ain't that good to travel around lil Tijuana. Stone only has the one place over there, and if I don't support them, never said I had a Vendetta against them. I do not like them for a particular stance they took to close down fishing ( that's called Anti-fishing), you live in Carlsbad and don't know about the whole MLPA deal, yeah right. I also stated that he donated money directly to enviro freak groups. Please at least get your facts straight.
And depending on where you are in SD, Ballast Point is bigger, they offer the most varieties of styles of beer than anyone else in San Diego and own Brewmart that sells Brewery Supplies Even the Soaked in Suds edition of the Reader lables Ballast Point as being bigger. I work down in Sorrento Valley, so if anything I'd eat at Pizzaport or Karl Strauss, instead of going to East County or Escondido, don't even like going Downtown either. But yeah I live less than 2 miles from Iron Fist Brewery and Belching Beaver and Indian Joe's, to me they're all better than Stone.
I live in Oceanside, so I'm constantly getting all their new products and there's always new products. In fact, its one of the reasons I love Stone. They are damn near fearless to try new ideas and recipes. I love hoppy/bitter beers and the Self Righteously Sublime Ale and their Enjoy by are fantastic for that in addition to their various other production line beers. But have you guys tried their Espresso Russian Imperial Stout? Holy Moly! Amazing.
Being in Southern Cali, more specifically SD County, I consider myself spoiled with so many amazing breweries around making such high quality beer. Belching Beaver is a close second if not tied for first in my favorite breweries in SD county...so far...so many to try...so little time.
Stone is certainly a top 5.
In San Diego County.
But have you guys tried their Espresso Russian Imperial Stout? Holy Moly! Amazing.
I wouldn't place any of their beers in my top 5 list but I think Stone Brewing Co is a model craft beer company.
- they make very good, consistent beer
- focus on local community with their Bistro/Gardens/Brewery and their numerous Company Store Satellites
- numerous events and drives etc for charities
- they host and organize tons of events that bring light and positive attention to craft beer and the San Diego craft beer scene
- Greg Koch has a big ego and can be obnoxious but he is a great CEO imo and has done good things for craft beer
(most of the "controversial" twitter and youtube "disputes" end up being PR stunts)
I respectfully disagree. One of the most popular, yes. One of the ones most responsible for craft beer taking off in San Diego, sure. They hit some home runs but there are alot of places making better beer.
Ballast Point
Green Flash
Alpine
Lost Abbey
Societe
Just to name a few.
Mother Earth belongs on it..don't know if you've been there, but it's outstanding.
I respectfully disagree. One of the most popular, yes. One of the ones most responsible for craft beer taking off in San Diego, sure. They hit some home runs but there are alot of places making better beer.
Ballast Point
Green Flash
Alpine
Lost Abbey
Societe
Just to name a few.
And depending on where you are in SD, Ballast Point is bigger, they offer the most varieties of styles of beer than anyone else in San Diego and own Brewmart that sells Brewery Supplies Even the Soaked in Suds edition of the Reader lables Ballast Point as being bigger. I work down in Sorrento Valley, so if anything I'd eat at Pizzaport or Karl Strauss, instead of going to East County or Escondido, don't even like going Downtown either. But yeah I live less than 2 miles from Iron Fist Brewery and Belching Beaver and Indian Joe's, to me they're all better than Stone.
I'm not going to bother with a response other than to say that this is the most bizarre thing I've read on the Internet in the past year... and that's saying something.
I don't agree on green flash, but that's totally subjective. I also think Alpine and Societe are so lacking in distribution the quality of what little beer they're making isn't even close to enough to knock off Stone....fwiw...criteria being whatever each of us decides it is.
I do like your list though. Mother Earth belongs on it..don't know if you've been there, but it's outstanding.
the_trout said:If I could bathe myself in Enjoy By I would.
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