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ckcanady

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During the time of Jesus' life beer was common throughout the Middle East. We know that alcohol was much safer to drink then water and that Jesus did drink wine. The bible refers to "strong drink" which was more often then not beer. Wine was normally referred to as "fermented drink." What is your take?
If this is true what type of beer would you think Jesus would enjoy?
 
Id say he only drank beer since grains were alot more common than grapes ..im sure it just got lost in translation
 
KBentley57 said:
Please. Everyone knows Jebus drank wine, not some trailor trash homebrew.

Ohh but he'd drink some trailer trash home made wine?
I think he'd enjoy some Ta Henket from Dogfish
 
I get asked this question from time to time since I'm a preacher and a home brewer. I certainly don't claim to be much of a bible scholar though.


I have always loved that the first miracle recorded in the Book of John is Jesus making wine. Lots of it. At least 120 gallons of it. And it was awesome. And it was after people had been drinking.

While the English translation doesn't mention beer specifically in the Bible, it is hard to ignore historical fact that beer was around during that time and in that region. Also, since Jesus spent a lot of time in places that most "religious" people wouldn't go, chances are there was beer around. Either way, beer or wine, it's obvious that Jesus was ok with alcohol. Alcohol in and of itself is amoral.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but back in the day, Hops weren't used in beer because folks didn't know how awesome they were. Also, the fermented greatness was consumed shortly after it was created, which would provide a not high abv, and certainly a not very clear beverage. (I once heard people used the foam from beer to make their bread rise). Liquid bread, if you will. So... the beer we're all used to, no matter the type, is probably not what our ancestors consumed. Can anyone more else provide more details?
 
I don't know about all that, but New Acronym!

WWJD!

That is what I will ask myself every time I have to decide what to get. I think more often than not it will be IPA.
 
Kittyfeet said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but back in the day, Hops weren't used in beer because folks didn't know how awesome they were. Also, the fermented greatness was consumed shortly after it was created, which would provide a not high abv, and certainly a not very clear beverage. (I once heard people used the foam from beer to make their bread rise). Liquid bread, if you will. So... the beer we're all used to, no matter the type, is probably not what our ancestors consumed. Can anyone more else provide more details?

True- hops were not used so if your a Reinheitsgebot brewer then he is not drink beer... But grain fermented beverages were abundant and their are many available today. Some examples could be found made by dogfish, anchorsteam, and a few other companies...
 
Imagine if you will, Jesus sitting in a hut with a number of other of other men, a frothy pot of fermented grains on the floor in front of them and each sipping it through their long straws...
 
Assuming that Jesus was God incarnate and that He, like the Father, was omnipotent, and that the story of the wedding in Caanan was true and He did, in fact, turn water into wine, then you have to believe that, in His own time, He was turning water into marvelous, spectacular barleywines, double IPAs, and Russian Imperial Stouts (even though Catherine the Great would not commission the Russian Imperial Stout for 1700 more years) which, as we all know, are far superior to any wine. In sum, Jesus, if he had a brain in his head, would have been the ultimate homebrewer. I'm out.
 
I would have to think that Jesus wouldn't just "turn" water into beer because most of the passion and love that we hold as brewers is in the brewing of beer. Either way, I could see a joyous Jesus holding a tankard full of a full stout and sporting a beer foam mustache!
 
Id say he only drank beer since grains were alot more common than grapes ..im sure it just got lost in translation

I remember one docco I watch which went to say pretty much that. The original stories were Jesus turning water into a fermented beverage... then when they were translated wine was choosen as it was the drink of choice for the affluent at then time of translation. I mean Jesus wouldn't be slumming it...
 
I sure hope so, becasue if there's no beer in heaven, eternity is going to suck.
 
BBL_Brewer said:
I sure hope so, becasue if there's no beer in heaven, eternity is going to suck.

There's a polka out there that clears it up. "In heaven there is no beer. That's why we drink it here. "
 
If you got a chance to sit down with "the big guy" and have a brew what would you serve him?
I think I'd go with my Belgian strong dark ale nicknamed The Prophet
 
So what you are saying is that I perform miracles on a more frequent basis than Jesus did? I mean, Jesus turned water into fermented drink once and people are talking about it 2000 years later. Me, I do that just about every week. So I guess that means I'm probably going to be like intergalacticly famous or something.
 
So what you are saying is that I perform miracles on a more frequent basis than Jesus did? I mean, Jesus turned water into fermented drink once and people are talking about it 2000 years later. Me, I do that just about every week. So I guess that means I'm probably going to be like intergalacticly famous or something.

Yeah and he only let it sit for what, a few minutes before serving. Man that must of been some green beer. What a noob :D
 
But now, take that a step farther and consider the implications that fall from the use of "wine" rather than beer or "fermented drink". Wine is made by the terroir, the territory, in which the grapes are grown. The Vintner does not create the wine, he merely uses the grapes that the season gives him, good or bad, and does his best with the quality he has. On the other hand, beer is not affected by the quality of the weather. Whereas an entire crop of grapes could be wiped out by an early freeze, it would be an extremely rare famine in which grains of barley were unsuitable for making beer. So in that sense, the taste of a beer is more directly attributable to the brewer, less to the special qualities of the ingredients used. Whereas there is a finite supply of wine, limited to the number of grapes grown and by the regions in which good grapes can be grown, the supply of beer is nearly infinite, as grains can be grown annually nearly anywhere on the planet. Great beer can be supplied to all people, great wine cannot. That's just a simple fact of life on this planet. SO... think about what this says about the hidden biases in the translations of the Bible. What motivated a Church to use the word "wine", an alcoholic beverage of limited availability and quantity, over the more egalitarian and endlessly available "beer"? Was this the moment that the church chose elitism and the reinforcing of classes within society, over their own teachings regarding the equality of men?
 
gratus fermentatio said:
I saw it coming & I still LOL'd. :D
I think might've drank beers like these:
http://www.shmaltzbrewing.com/HEBREW/index.html :mug:
Just sayin.
Regards, GF.

Picked one up yesterday.


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Jesus turned water to wine with a touch of his hands but i dont recall anywhere that it says he drank wine (tonyc318 can probably clear that up if im wrong). If he did it probably wasn't alot since the bible states not to be drunk on wine, it doesnt say not to drink it at all. We discussed this at work one time and a guy stated " the bible says not to be drunk on wine, not beer".
 
Jesus turned water to wine with a touch of his hands but i dont recall anywhere that it says he drank wine (tonyc318 can probably clear that up if im wrong). If he did it probably wasn't alot since the bible states not to be drunk on wine, it doesnt say not to drink it at all. We discussed this at work one time and a guy stated " the bible says not to be drunk on wine, not beer".

Ahhhh, but what is the deffinition of "drunk":
Happy and a bit loose,
sluring a bit
stumbling around
falling down?
 
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