Decoction vs melanoidin malt

[Denny]

It's nearly impossible to find undermodified malt to use. And if I got Benz beer by doing decoctions, I would. But blind tastings have shown me that there's no reason for me to do it other than enjoying the process. And I hate to expend energy that gives me no payback.

 

[VladOfTrub]

So, you did an experiment using malt not suitable for the decoction process? The experiment was performed incorrectly and is useless.


Low modified malt is nearly impossible to get? Not according to Crisp Malting. Crisp Euro Pils, low modified, stocked at the LHBS where I buy malt. Weyermann floor malt according to batch number, low to slight modification, stocked at the LHBS where I buy malt. Both manufacturers recommend decoction method or step when using the malt.
www.weyermann.de/downloads/pdf/Voigt_Poster_Trends in Brewing Ghent 2010.pdf
www.crispmalt.co/docs/Crisp EURO Pilsner Malt.pdf


Here's another experiment not done haphazardly.
www.wahomebrewers.org/clinics/242-decoction-clinic-notes

If you are able to produce the same quality of beer by dumping hot water on grain, as a correctly performed decoction using the ingredients suitable for the method, produces. You'd be the only one on the planet.

Years ago, someone said. "If I put a radio in everyone's home I will rule the world." He also, said. "The bigger the lie, the more the people will believe it."

Give the other fox the key to the hen house.

 

[Denny]

Such vitriol! It's homebrewing! I asked homebrewers to do whatever homewbrewers do. I know the guys who did the WA experiment well and I tasted the beers. Calm down.

 

[highgravitybacon]

The argument of "You have to use poorly modified malt to give decoction a 'fair shot'" is in itself an argument against decoction. If I have to race someone but insist on them hopping with one leg while I can run with two, can you call it a contest to see who runs faster?