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NOTE: Frits and I are kicking around some changes, but for now here is the deal:

This group buy is open to HBT members who are local to the DC metro area, including MD and VA as well as the district. A limited number of folks in the Charlottesville/Waynesboro/Staunton area may participate as I drive there 6-8 times a year, but you must be willing to wait for my next trip home...

The intent of this buy is to be held on a regular schedule. We do not have a minimum order to make so we can schedule this to happen on a regular timetable and that allows you to plan your buys to the way you brew instead of having to stock up like the old model forced you to. Looks like we are getting in a groove with the buy happening every 6-7 weeks.

Some "info" and "rules" to go over:

* If you want the price list, PM me your email address...otherwise you don't get it!
* The pickup location is at 3 Stars brewery in DC
* TBD but we are doing this either every month or every other month (based on demand) and based on the weekends that Mike works...
* The pickup will occur the Sat. after the buy closes, so buy closes Friday night, order goes in Sat. AM, pick up the following Sat. AM at 3 Stars.
* Pickup time is 11 AM and ends at 12 or 12:30 AM (TBD), right before they can fill growlers so come prepared to buy from the HBS and get your growler(s) filled!
* If you cannot pick up your grain, you MUST arrange with someone else to do so and let either IslandLizard or I know who is picking up your grain
* All payment is via paypal and must be in by midnight Friday the week BEFORE the pickup
* Splits are a PITA, but as long as someone is willing to manage them we will allow them (IslandLizard is managing them now)
* If you suggest a split, you must pay IslandLizard, like everyone else who wants a share of your sack. IslandLizard controls all payments and keep track of all splits on the same set of sheets we send you a link to; check status there before asking in the forum.
* In the past we have had issues with some sacks not showing up or the wrong sacks showing up; be forewarned that this can happen, though this is a new supplier so hopefully it won't
* The price list is given out by email so if you want it PM me with your email; no email, no list, no exceptions
* The price list is private, do not share with others. Have them contact me. Do not discuss pricing on the forum. Do not give out the link.
* When ordering please use a standard format, for example copy and paste the SKU + grain straight off the price list. Something like this:

2 x BRI1004 Briess Pilsen 50 lb
1 x MUN1001 Muntons Maris Otter 25 kg (55 lb)

10# WEY1031 Weyermann® CaraMunich I® 25 Kg (55 Lb.):


* ...and put it at the bottom of your post, away from text to make it stand out. In this example, the buyer is asking for 3 full sacks and to start a split of CaraMunich, of which he is taking 10 pounds.
* If you are buying splits, please quote the primary buyers post as part of your request post to make it easy for us to see what split you are taking.
* We currently create a very complete set of sheets that we keep on google drive with all the information about a buy. Please check it before asking questions. If it is not up to date, give us some time before posting. We do have real jobs, families, and we also like to brew from time to time...
* The brewery has growler hours at 1PM; they cannot sell you a growler before that by law. Don't ask.
* The brewery has a small homebrew store; PLEASE snag some hops, yeast, etc. to show your appreciation.
* PAYMENT is via PayPal only! Pay the week before the buy by Friday at midnight. Pay me at the email address I used to send you the link to the sheet. Use the pay friend/family option and DO NOT pay via PayPal check! PLEASE put your HBT moniker in the note section so I know who you are. Collating email addresses is a pain!
 
thank you, tony and frits, on making buy #9 happen... on to #10!

frits, as a reminder i proposed the following splits:

i would like to start three splits for the next round:

CRI1036 Crisp Crystal 60L 25 kg (55 lb) - i will take 10 lbs
CRI1002 Crisp Gleneagles Maris Otter 25 kg (55 lb) - i will take 25 lbs
SIM1071 Simpsons Golden Naked Oats 25 kg (55 lb) - i will take 10 lbs
 
Sweetcell,

There is already a C40 split. You could just jump in on that and bump a couple ounces for color. Taste is pretty much the same.
 
Scribed! Please move my "not closed" splits over.

Done, I've moved your previous shares for those 2 splits.
All others who were on those 2 buys need to resubmit if still interested. I re-added those 2 items to Splits #9 (red lines) so everyone can check their previous order, including cancelled splits.

thank you, tony and frits, on making buy #9 happen... on to #10!

frits, as a reminder i proposed the following splits:

CRI1036 Crisp Crystal 60L 25 kg (55 lb) - i will take 10 lbs
CRI1002 Crisp Gleneagles Maris Otter 25 kg (55 lb) - i will take 25 lbs
SIM1071 Simpsons Golden Naked Oats 25 kg (55 lb) - i will take 10 lbs

Yup, just added those 3. Let the games begin!
 
Sweetcell,

There is already a C40 split. You could just jump in on that and bump a couple ounces for color. Taste is pretty much the same.
indeed, but this C40 split (and the one in the buy #9, which i got in on) are for american crystal from Briess.

my proposed split is for english crystal from Crisp... so it's less about the color (40 vs. 60'ish) and more about the roast characteristic. really subtle but i like it.

given how long before buy #10 closes, i'm pretty confident we'll be able to close both bags.
 
Need...more...rice...hulls! Just kidding guys! Special thanks to Stonebrewer and Islandlizard for keeping these buys going!
 
indeed, but this C40 split (and the one in the buy #9, which i got in on) are for american crystal from Briess.

my proposed split is for english crystal from Crisp... so it's less about the color (40 vs. 60'ish) and more about the roast characteristic. really subtle but i like it.

given how long before buy #10 closes, i'm pretty confident we'll be able to close both bags.

Fair enough.
 
After the problem we ran into on Sunday, I want to propose this:


  • Splits close a week before the order goes in. All split payments are due then. If we have a non-payer on our hands, we have a week to find substitute takers, rather than a few hours at a very inconvenient and critical time.

  • New splits can still be added during that last week, but every participant in those, prepays their shares with their order before they get added to the list.
    [This is the touchy one] Some buyers are exempt from prepayment given their record and participation level in our group buys.

We could do the same for whole sacks, although a dropped out buyer doesn't impact others like they do on splits.
 
  • Splits close a week before the order goes in. All split payments are due then. If we have a non-payer on our hands, we have a week to find substitute takers, rather than a few hours at a very inconvenient and critical time.
sounds like a great rule.

  • New splits can still be added during that last week, but every participant in those, prepays their shares with their order before they get added to the list.
    [This is the touchy one] Some buyers are exempt from prepayment given their record and participation level in our group buys.
eh, up to you since you'll be managing this, but you could simplify your life by not allowing this. personally, i would close splits a week beforehand, end of story. then you're not bothered with refunding shares if the bag isn't fully claimed, or carrying over payments, etc.
 
sounds like a great rule.

eh, up to you since you'll be managing this, but you could simplify your life by not allowing this. personally, i would close splits a week beforehand, end of story. then you're not bothered with refunding shares if the bag isn't fully claimed, or carrying over payments, etc.

You got a good point there. I know many buyers don't get fully spurred on until the last week. So the last week for splits would be 2 weeks before the order date.

I don't want to cut off or punish those who are actively involved and make this so great. Mike's Pearl and Rye splits filled up in a few days. I think the problem lies in dealing with unknown buyers and their possible non-commitment and ignorance when payment is due.

We should be able to allow new splits to be added in the week after the splits close, somehow. There's a lot of momentum that last week, and ideas are sprouting.
 
I know my opinion wasn't asked, so here it is anyway ;) I'm in favor of closing splits a week early with no exceptions. We do this often enough so if something's not urgent enough to order before the final week, pushing it to the next buy shouldn't really hurt anyone.
 
I am interested in the FastFerment plastic conical fermenter offered by FastRack (https://www.thefastrack.ca/main/fastferment). They have a 4-pack, shipped in the US for $320 which comes to $80 a pop. I'd be willing to take one at that price and distribute the rest at our group buy. Anyone else up for it?

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Can I get:

5# Briess 2-Row Caramel 40L 50 lb BRI1035
5# Crisp Crystal 60L 25 kg (55 lb) CRI1036

Thanks!
 
I know my opinion wasn't asked, so here it is anyway ;) I'm in favor of closing splits a week early with no exceptions. We do this often enough so if something's not urgent enough to order before the final week, pushing it to the next buy shouldn't really hurt anyone.

I'm OK with closing the splits a week early as well if it makes it easier on the coordination. I say whatever is easiest for IslandLizard is fine with me when it comes to splits, since he's putting in a ton of work on them.
 
I'll take 15# of the Naked Oats.

Added.

Put me down for CaraAroma split...I'll take 15 pounds. Sucks as I needed this for an AB clone I was planning to do.

Started new split for CaraAroma. Brilliant minds think alike.

15# for stonebrewer
10# for IslandLizard. It does suck, as I need it too. At least I can buy it in Severna Park.
 
Well, that I can do! Gives me a reason to swing through sometime. Also can bring a bomber of my version for you to try (not as hoppy due to lack of gypsum, but pretty close in all other regards).

As long as you can repay once the new buy closes, we'll call it square.

Fritz add me for 10# of CaraAroma on new split, to help replenish.
 
I'll get in on the split.

10# Crisp Crystal 60L 25 kg (55 lb) CRI1036
 
Well, that I can do! Gives me a reason to swing through sometime. Also can bring a bomber of my version for you to try (not as hoppy due to lack of gypsum, but pretty close in all other regards).

As long as you can repay once the new buy closes, we'll call it square.

Fritz add me for 10# of CaraAroma on new split, to help replenish.

Added 10# of CA.

I'll get in on the split.

10# Crisp Crystal 60L 25 kg (55 lb) CRI1036

Added 10# of Crisp C60.
 
Add me on:

10# Crisp Crystal 60L 25 kg (55 lb) CRI1036


So I got a 55 lb sack of MO on Group Buy #9, I'm wanting to buy another sack of base malt for general use. I tend to brew more British and American beers. I just started doing lagers, and think maybe I'll do more come the winter when I have an outdoor shed area that I think would work in a DC winter with a heating element. So what would be a good malt that would produce good ales and lagers? Thanks.
 
Add me on:
So I got a 55 lb sack of MO on Group Buy #9, I'm wanting to buy another sack of base malt for general use. I tend to brew more British and American beers. I just started doing lagers, and think maybe I'll do more come the winter when I have an outdoor shed area that I think would work in a DC winter with a heating element. So what would be a good malt that would produce good ales and lagers? Thanks.


If you're going to work on lagers in the winter, go for a sack of german or belgian pilsner; the only problem is it doesn't get too far with British or American styles. It could be a good excuse to do some belgian ales, though. You could go for a Munich or Vienna if you want something darker.


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