Specialty IPA: Black IPA Darth Vader - Black IPA

[mesooohoppy]

Thank you for the info. I will do exactly what you stated.

Although i am confused by your firSt sentence. Do you use a bag or not for dry hopping?

 

[ImperialStaudt]

This beer is awesome, I am on my second time around with it but the LHBS didn't have cascade in 1oz and since I have a half pound of citra around I used it for the second version. Obviously I love citra with 3 zombie dusts kegs being brewed. Should turn out good.

 

[Murphys_Law]

So....I screwed up! I accidentally bought Special B instead of Special.

Well, gonna brew it anyway! Anyone use this instead, by chance?

 

[grrickar]

I did a variant of this, I will post up the recipe if it turns out decent.

 

[JLeuck64]

Just bottled my second go around with this recipe. Turned out just like my 1st try at it! 55 bottles of 7.3% ABV, 1.070 down to 1.014

I am getting results that are pretty consistent which has me thinking I might try going with a larger boil volume the next go around. Even if the finished product drops down into the 6% ABV it don't matter to me cuz I end up with more finished product ( ;

 

[Michigan_Wolfman]

Incoming message from Lord Vader....

 

[mesooohoppy]

Bottling this tomorrow (second of three brews ive done). Super excited!

 

[beernbourbon]

Incoming message from Lord Vader....

Yeah....bout that.....

 

[Michigan_Wolfman]

Yeah....bout that.....

LOL! Well played.

 

[grrickar]

Just bottled my variant of this. Dark Sails BIPA. Can't wait to try it in a couple of weeks

 

[mesooohoppy]

Bottled last weekend and it was awesome. Can't wait!

 

[pdenatale]

I have about half a corny left of this, 1st attempt and I love it. Will be a usual around my parts.

 

[mesooohoppy]

So, my FG at bottling time was 1.020. How would you further lower the gravity? Add more yeast?

 

[seehuusen]

That could be due to several things, yeast is one. If you pitched the right amount of healthy fresh yeast then the cause could also be your mash temperature...
Have you tried rousing the yeast?
How about raising the fermentation temperature?

 

[grrickar]

I went waaaay too roasty with mine. The initial bit is somewhat pleasant, but the aftertaste is almost like burned coffee or something. Goes to show too much of a good thing can be bad...

I'm not dumping the batch, but not really going to enjoy it as much either. I think I will let it mellow a few weeks. The bottle I tried was one week old..

 

[mesooohoppy]

That could be due to several things, yeast is one. If you pitched the right amount of healthy fresh yeast then the cause could also be your mash temperature...
Have you tried rousing the yeast?
How about raising the fermentation temperature?

Well, I pitched 2 smack packs. Not sure if that's the culprit, but out of the 5 batches I've brewed, I seem to have to most luck with rehydrating dry yeast. I get much more active fermentations, so I think I will stick to doing that from now on.

Ferm temp is already high. The house is anywhere from 73-76. The last brew I made is currently sitting in a big 'ball bucket' with water and frozen water bottles to lower Fermentation temps. There is no possible way for me to keep a temp lower than mid 70s (no basement). I need to keep better documentation of my mas temps as well. Thanks for the help!

 

[mesooohoppy]

I went waaaay too roasty with mine. The initial bit is somewhat pleasant, but the aftertaste is almost like burned coffee or something. Goes to show too much of a good thing can be bad...

I'm not dumping the batch, but not really going to enjoy it as much either. I think I will let it mellow a few weeks. The bottle I tried was one week old..

Mine has that roast characteristic as well, although it doesnt seem as bad as what youre describing. Is that from the carafa? Its only been carbing in the bottle for about a week and a half, I cracked one a couple of days ago to see how it was holding up and the hops are almost non existent. Still drinkable, but not what I intended (second batch ive brewed)

I was at the local home brew store a week or two ago and the guy was kind enough to share some of his black ipa. He mentioned something about mashing the carafa separate, in a different manner. He said he wanted the color, but to keep the roast flavor down to a minimum. I don't remember the details, but if anyone has some insight to as what I am talking about, please share! When I go back, I will make sure to ask him again.

 

[grrickar]

Mine has that roast characteristic as well, although it doesnt seem as bad as what youre describing. Is that from the carafa? Its only been carbing in the bottle for about a week and a half, I cracked one a couple of days ago to see how it was holding up and the hops are almost non existent. Still drinkable, but not what I intended (second batch ive brewed)

I was at the local home brew store a week or two ago and the guy was kind enough to share some of his black ipa. He mentioned something about mashing the carafa separate, in a different manner. He said he wanted the color, but to keep the roast flavor down to a minimum. I don't remember the details, but if anyone has some insight to as what I am talking about, please share! When I go back, I will make sure to ask him again.

I think if you cold water steep it you get less roast/bitterness.

 

[lawless317]

Well I tweaked this too much?
It's now an India Stout Ale?
Not bad for my bridge into trying to drink stouts

 

[Shenanigans]

Has anyone experimented with the hops on this?
I'm planning on brewing 3 beers on the weekend but want to keep my cascades for the other two beers.

I have the following available:

Summit
Galaxy
El Dorado
Mosaic
Falconer's Flight
Chinook
Centennial
Willamette

Or you know another good Black IPA recipe that these would work in?

Thanks!

 

[m00ps]

Has anyone experimented with the hops on this?
I'm planning on brewing 3 beers on the weekend but want to keep my cascades for the other two beers.

I have the following available:

Summit
Galaxy
El Dorado
Mosaic
Falconer's Flight
Chinook
Centennial
Willamette

Or you know another good Black IPA recipe that these would work in?

Thanks!

I like to focus on piney and resinous flavors in my black IPAs. My last one featured simcoe, chinook, mosaic, and a comet for dry hopping. So I would recommend chinook, galaxy, mosaic, and summit

This is what I did
9 lb 2 row
2 lb flaked barley
6 oz aromatic malt
1 lb midnight wheat (only mashed half, other half at mashout)
1 lb cane sugar

@60: 1 oz columbus
@15: 1 oz simcoe / 1 oz mosaic
@0: 1 oz simcoe / 2 oz mosaic / 1 oz chinook
@+15: 1 oz simcoe / 1 oz mosaic / 2 oz chinook
@dry: 1 oz simcoe / 1 oz chinook
@dry2: 1 oz simcoe / 2 oz comet
@keg: 1 oz simcoe / 1 oz chinook

 

[Shenanigans]

I like to focus on piney and resinous flavors in my black IPAs. My last one featured simcoe, chinook, mosaic, and a comet for dry hopping. So I would recommend chinook, galaxy, mosaic, and summit

This is what I did
9 lb 2 row
2 lb flaked barley
6 oz aromatic malt
1 lb midnight wheat (only mashed half, other half at mashout)
1 lb cane sugar

@60: 1 oz columbus
@15: 1 oz simcoe / 1 oz mosaic
@0: 1 oz simcoe / 2 oz mosaic / 1 oz chinook
@+15: 1 oz simcoe / 1 oz mosaic / 2 oz chinook
@dry: 1 oz simcoe / 1 oz chinook
@dry2: 1 oz simcoe / 2 oz comet
@keg: 1 oz simcoe / 1 oz chinook

Hi m00ps thanks for your reply.
Food for thought there.

I forgot to add Columbus to the list of hops I have available.

 

[JLeuck64]

Made another batch of this today (my 3rd time). It is quickly becoming a house fav... 6gal of post boil volume at 1.066 bwaa ha ha! (hope it don't get the air lock messy!)

 

[JLeuck64]

Bottling up my 3rd batch of this recipe today, it finished at 1.013

Making another batch tomorrow

 

[JLeuck64]

Brewed my 4th batch of this recipe today and it went well ( ; Decided to bump up my pre-boil volume a touch, so my post boil volume ended up being 6.5gal @ 1.065. S.G. numbers are looking good now, think I will start trying to dial in the IBU's. Last few batches have been in the high 40's low 50's per Brewtarget's IBU calculator. Great simple recipe and that Kolsch yeast just chew's through the sugars!

(oh man... I just realized why the IBU's are 66! LOL...)

 

[JLeuck64]

OMG... I've GOT to figure out a way to sneak this into a movie theater! Naturally carbed using brown sugar this time ( ;

 

[GrimCityBrewer]

Just brewed a 5.5 gallon batch of this yesterday! I followed the recipe exactly so far but am looking for some input. I have about an oz of Williamette and oz of Mt. Hood left over from a batch of BM's Cof3C. What would the implications be of adding these to the 1 oz of cascade suggested for dry hopping? Good idea, bad idea? If I try it, do I mix all three oz's together at once, or stage?

 

[GrimCityBrewer]

Also, has anyone tried this recipe subbing in Chocolate (350L) for Carafa Special II? Hoping this won't make my brew to roasty...

 

[nunnlife]

Making this tomorrow!
How many packets of US-05 are people using for the 5g batch? Also I accidentally got Extra Special roast (130L). What are people's thoughts on how this will change the beer? Good or bad??

 

[JLeuck64]

Just brewed a 5.5 gallon batch of this yesterday! I followed the recipe exactly so far but am looking for some input. I have about an oz of Williamette and oz of Mt. Hood left over from a batch of BM's Cof3C. What would the implications be of adding these to the 1 oz of cascade suggested for dry hopping? Good idea, bad idea? If I try it, do I mix all three oz's together at once, or stage?

Also, has anyone tried this recipe subbing in Chocolate (350L) for Carafa Special II? Hoping this won't make my brew to roasty...

Making this tomorrow!
How many packets of US-05 are people using for the 5g batch? Also I accidentally got Extra Special roast (130L). What are people's thoughts on how this will change the beer? Good or bad??

If you wander from the original recipe you will be... experimenting ( ;

If you don't like the end result I wholeheartedly recommend you try it again as per the original post ( ; you won't be disappointed!