American Pale Ale Da Yooper's House Pale Ale

[Thecakepounder]

5 pounds pale malt (I used marris otter)
3 pounds vienna malt
2 pounds Munich malt
1/2 pound crystal 20L
1/2 pound crystal 60L

1 ounce Cascade 60 minutes
.75 ounce cascade 30 minutes
1 ounce Cascade 10 minutes
1/2 ounce cascade 5 minutes
1/2 ounce cascade flameout

1 ounce cascade (dryhop)

I used homegrown cascade for the late hopping additions, so had to guestimate the final IBUs, but used commercial pellet hops for the bittering additions (8% AAU).

Mashed at 154. Fermented at low ale temps (62) for two weeks, then dryhopped for a week.

This beer is my attempt at Lakefront Brewery's Cream City Pale Ale. I don't know if it's close- we don't have any to compare it to! But i was going for a slightly bitter, malt forward, APA. It worked! This beer is balanced, but definitely an APA. It's our new "house beer".

Edited to add new information: I don't use S05 much any more as it never clears well for me and can have "peachy notes" I no longer like. I love WLP001 for this beer, which is very similar but clears a bit better with no "peach" notes. I also mash at 152 with my new system, as I get better attenuation that way.

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Recipe looks beautiful. My local brew shop has light and dark munich. The lighter being 8 lovi and the darker being 13. Or does it not matter and im just being a noob?

 

[Yooper]

Recipe looks beautiful. My local brew shop has light and dark munich. The lighter being 8 lovi and the darker being 13. Or does it not matter and im just being a noob?

You’ll want the lighter Munich is most cases, unless dark Munich being specified!

 

[Thecakepounder]

Thanks for blessing me with a response. Much appreciated brody. Hoping for my first all grain this weekend, waiting on some hardware yet.

 

[Thecakepounder]

Just had my first couple bottles of my first ever batches. This beer is simply delish, definitely gonna be brewing this more often then not. Id like to try some of your other recipes since this beer seemed to mesh well with my taste. Again, thanks for the recipe and all the input. Got my 2nd batch on a boil as i type this.

Thanks,
Paul

 

[FromZwolle]

Munich is very malty and very nice, but it’s a bit much in beers if overdone.

dirty dirty lies. 100% munich beer isn't enough munich. not fitting for an American APA, but in principle, you just can't over-munich.

 

[Yooper]

dirty dirty lies. 100% munich beer isn't enough munich. not fitting for an American APA, but in principle, you just can't over-munich.

Well, since this is my recipe, in a thread discussing an American pale ale recipe, I think that saying 100% munich is too much is understood to be discussing this recipe and not Munich dunkel. Thanks for your contribution, though.

 

[brewman !]

Any thoughts on brewing this as a dark lager ? More suited to summer ?

Same recipe with a lager yeast and semi cool fermentation temp ?

 

[bleak]

I've added 1/2 ounce of Nugget hops at FWB, and for me it really knocks it out of the park. They're homegrown so I couldn't tell you what the AAU for it is. This has been my house pale ale for a number of years.

 

[DeadGuyNick]

Just picked 1 lb of cascade hops from a buddy. Gonna use this recipe but go fresh hop, with pellets for the dry hopping.

 

[MetalBeerSolid]

Long time lurker, first time poster. Made this all grain recipe as listed.

OG: 1.054 (using a Tilt and after a yeast pitch I believe)
FG: 1.008
ABV: 6%

Wanted to inform that all these years later, the recipe is solid if people are still brewing it. I enjoy the recipe and will make it again. I noticed that I under carbed initially and got a lot of crystal flavor, so I thought I'd dial it down but after proper carbonation, I wouldn't change it.

This was (if everything goes well) my last brew on my propane system, and I look forward to seeing how it comes out with the grainfather.

Thank you for the recipe Yooper!

 

[jlash630]

@Yooper in beersmith, which is the current recipe for this?

 

[MetalBeerSolid]

@Yooper I wanted to let you know, I took a third place medal in a competition for this. I plan to brew this again!

 

[jlash630]

@Yooper I wanted to let you know, I took a third place medal in a competition for this. I plan to brew this again!

Which version of the recipe did you go with?

 

[MetalBeerSolid]

Which version of the recipe did you go with?

Admittedly, I didn't document like I should have, but from what I remember, I did use:

5 pounds marris otter
3 pounds vienna malt
2 pounds Munich malt
1/2 pound crystal 20L
1/2 pound crystal 60L

1 ounce Cascade 60 minutes
.75 ounce cascade 30 minutes
1 ounce Cascade 10 minutes
1/2 ounce cascade 5 minutes
1/2 ounce cascade flameout

I remember thinking "what am I going to do with the remaining 0.25oz of hops, so I added it somewhere towards the end. I mashed at the 154 listed, but I did use WLP001. I did not dry hop like the original recipe called for.

For my water profile, I used RO from one of those water places you see in the parking lot. I used 3.44 gallons to achieve the 1.25qt/lb thickness. My process in the past was to fill two five gallon buckets filled with water, and add to both:
Gypsum
CaSO4
0.95g

Calc. Chloride
CaCl2
1.9g

Epsom Salt
MgSO4
1.4g

Baking Soda
NaHCO3
0.75g

This achieved:

​	Calcium​	Magnesium​	Sodium​	Chloride​	Sulfate​	Chloride / Sulfate​
​	(Ca ppm)​	(Mg ppm)​	(Na ppm)​	(Cl ppm)​	(SO4 ppm)​	Ratio​
Mash Water Profile:​	56​	10​	16​	70​	83​	0.85​
Mash + Sparge Water Profile:​	56​	10​	16​	70​	83​	0.85​
Palmer's Recommended Ranges:​	50 - 150​	10 - 30​	0 - 150​	0 - 250​	50 - 350​	.77 to 1.3 = Balanced​

I added phosphoric acid to bring pH to around 5.3-5.4.

I sparged enough to get 6.5 gallons of wort to boil. Fermented at 62F.

 

[twqqis]

Yoop!
First attempt at this one. Also my first brew after an 18mo hiatus. Stuffed up the mash and came too high on the temp (beyond 70'C / 158F) and had to work it back down.
The (perceived) bitterness seems too much for me, prob due to mash issues
Colour is just a beauty, but BJCP2015.18B shows 5-10 for APA...my guess is this is around 17

Can't wait to retry this one. Have done a Munich Dunkel and Schwarzbier since (both busy fermenting)

 

[RimWreck]

Brewed one month before Easter. Almost gone. Boosted it to 1.070. Great grain bill - wonderful flavor. I will be brewing it again soon. And, later, I'm thinking of adapting the grain bill for something else... but what?

 

[RimWreck]

And, thanks, Yooper! Very inventive recipe.

 

[jdubdvdt]

Always liked your recipes Yoop!

Made my own variant of this to get back into homebrewing after a hiatus. I did not dry hop to reduce the chance of BMC drinkers disliking it. It was for my sister's wedding. Unfortunately could not get WLP001 quick enough locally so I used US-05 and must have fermented too cold - got a hint of peachy flavors you mentioned and now I am looking at my stash of US-05 wondering if I find a new dry yeast to have on hand.

5.5 Gallon Fermenter Target. US-05 Yeast.

7 lb	United Kingdom - Maris Otter Pale
2 lb	American - Vienna
1 lb	Munich
0.50 lb	American - Caramel / Crystal 20L
0.50 lb	American - Carapils (Dextrine Malt)

1 oz	Cascade	Pellet	60 min
0.50 oz	Cascade	Pellet	30 min
0.50 oz	Cascade	Pellet	10 min
0.50 oz	Cascade	Pellet	5 min
1 oz	Cascade	Pellet	0 min

With temp corrections I came up with
1.053 OG and 1.011 FG, slightly over 70% brewhouse efficiency, really not bad given the complications I had on brew day.

 

[bhanson]

I haven't made this recipe for quite some time. It's one I always use to use up quantities of home grown Cascade, and after building a deck a few years ago which displaced my hops, it has taken some time for them to become established again.

Started on this last week. Mash went great, and as I'm draining, I glanced outside to see my sparge water heating and instead see a MASSIVE ball of fire. Think of it like KISS style pyrotechnics. I abandoned ship and went outside, cutting off the propane. The fire was billowing from the regulator hose, which had melted off of its base and was flapping around impressively killing grass. Fortunately, I had the burner far enough away from anything else and no real damage done.

The regulator went bad. I did some testing, and using it briefly with some clamps for testing, after lighting the burner it would change audibly in its output after a few seconds, and fire started blowing back through the venturi (which is what melted the end of the hose off). So I quickly packed up looking for another regulator around town. I headed to the nearest Ace, which usually has everything, and no. They had replacement hose sections, but only fixed regulators. I went to an AirGas dealer. No. They had acetylene regulators and CO2, but no propane. I went to a propane dealer. No. Fixed pressure only. Tractor Supply had one but its output side was monstrous and meant to go to some other sort of specific fixture that wasn't helpful. Lowes and Home Despot only had fixed pressure regulators.

At this point, it was clear I wasn't going to be boiling any beer that day. In fact, the second propane place I visited just told me outright nobody in town would have an adjustable regulator in stock and all the small tank regulators were meant for grills which had secondary controls on the grill itself - thus fixed low pressure side regulators.

It was too late in the day to get next day delivery on anything from Amazon. 2nd day it was.

I went for the total Hail Mary and treated the wort with campden tablets, on the offhand chance it might last the second day. Maybe I'd get lucky and have a sour and adjust the recipe. Buuuuuuuut - on day two, I had some slimy sludge that tasted and smelled like rancid almonds. I used it to feed my vegetable garden.

Today I'm restarting. My Vienna and Munich quantities are reversed, since I took 2 and 3 pounds from a five pound bag for either, but otherwise, I'm back on track. I'll have to rename this attempt, definitely not right to call it Yoop's house ale, but I expect it will be good.

Definitely one of the more unique fails in my long hombrewing history; I thought I'd share.

 

[jdubdvdt]

I haven't made this recipe for quite some time. It's one I always use to use up quantities of home grown Cascade, and after building a deck a few years ago which displaced my hops, it has taken some time for them to become established again.

Started on this last week. Mash went great, and as I'm draining, I glanced outside to see my sparge water heating and instead see a MASSIVE ball of fire. Think of it like KISS style pyrotechnics. I abandoned ship and went outside, cutting off the propane. The fire was billowing from the regulator hose, which had melted off of its base and was flapping around impressively killing grass. Fortunately, I had the burner far enough away from anything else and no real damage done.

The regulator went bad. I did some testing, and using it briefly with some clamps for testing, after lighting the burner it would change audibly in its output after a few seconds, and fire started blowing back through the venturi (which is what melted the end of the hose off). So I quickly packed up looking for another regulator around town. I headed to the nearest Ace, which usually has everything, and no. They had replacement hose sections, but only fixed regulators. I went to an AirGas dealer. No. They had acetylene regulators and CO2, but no propane. I went to a propane dealer. No. Fixed pressure only. Tractor Supply had one but its output side was monstrous and meant to go to some other sort of specific fixture that wasn't helpful. Lowes and Home Despot only had fixed pressure regulators.

At this point, it was clear I wasn't going to be boiling any beer that day. In fact, the second propane place I visited just told me outright nobody in town would have an adjustable regulator in stock and all the small tank regulators were meant for grills which had secondary controls on the grill itself - thus fixed low pressure side regulators.

It was too late in the day to get next day delivery on anything from Amazon. 2nd day it was.

I went for the total Hail Mary and treated the wort with campden tablets, on the offhand chance it might last the second day. Maybe I'd get lucky and have a sour and adjust the recipe. Buuuuuuuut - on day two, I had some slimy sludge that tasted and smelled like rancid almonds. I used it to feed my vegetable garden.

Today I'm restarting. My Vienna and Munich quantities are reversed, since I took 2 and 3 pounds from a five pound bag for either, but otherwise, I'm back on track. I'll have to rename this attempt, definitely not right to call it Yoop's house ale, but I expect it will be good.

Definitely one of the more unique fails in my long hombrewing history; I thought I'd share.

Glad no one got hurt!
It is hard to find parts for anything anymore. Everything is throw away. Surprised you didn't throw in the towel and get a turkey fryer setup from Walmart. Then again I don't know your batch size so maybe it wouldn't have worked.

I have been experiencing more little fails as time goes on.

 

[bhanson]

I did find a Gas One setup that was not at all a bad option, at one of the international grocery stores, but they quite literally were selling it for twice the price that the manufacturer lists it for, and I couldn't bring myself to throw an extra hundred into a new setup when I needed a thirty dollar regulator.

 

[Bago-0]

Im going to brew this on Saturday. I don't have enough Cascade hops on hand so plan on using half cascade and half citra. Anyone see any problems with this hop combo?

 

[jdubdvdt]

Im going to brew this on Saturday. I don't have enough Cascade hops on hand so plan on using half cascade and half citra. Anyone see any problems with this hop combo?

Not at all.
I'd run the citra only for late additions.

 

[Bago-0]

Finally kegged this but frustrating brew. After nine days saw no evidence of fermentation on the tilt hydrometer and no bubbles in airlock. I have a kegmenter so cant see inside. This has never happened so I figured maybe a problem with my yeast (I did a starter and it looked fine). For some reason I threw a pack of Kveik into the fermenter to see if I could get it started. 4 days later and no evidence of fermentation. what the heck! So I decide to check a gravity with the hydrometer and its 1.014. The tilt was not working and showing a constant reading of 1.052 and the tube I had running to airlock had a leak. So I kegged it and will see how it tastes next week. Learned a few lessons on this brew.

 

[marc1]

Finally kegged this but frustrating brew. After nine days saw no evidence of fermentation on the tilt hydrometer and no bubbles in airlock. I have a kegmenter so cant see inside. This has never happened so I figured maybe a problem with my yeast (I did a starter and it looked fine). For some reason I threw a pack of Kveik into the fermenter to see if I could get it started. 4 days later and no evidence of fermentation. what the heck! So I decide to check a gravity with the hydrometer and its 1.014. The tilt was not working and showing a constant reading of 1.052 and the tube I had running to airlock had a leak. So I kegged it and will see how it tastes next week. Learned a few lessons on this brew.

If you've got a kegmenter you can just throw on a picnic tap to take a gravity sample to confirm. No need to open or wonder what's going on inside.