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Cygott - Apple+Honey+Malt - Anyone every see anything like this?

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BrewFrick

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Hello all.
Lately I have been in a habit of just sitting down at the computer and making up recipes, so this is my latest non-hopped creation for your review:


Honey Apple Malt Beverage

3 lbs. Light Malt DME
3 Gallons Pure Apple Juice
2 lbs. Honey
3lb. Dextrose
4 Cans Apple Juice Concentrate
2 tsp Cinnamon Powder
2 tsp vanilla (secondary)
1 tsp yeast nutrient
Irish Moss
Four Green Apples Cut and Added to Primary
Wyeast Farmhouse Ale Yeast in Activator Pack

Cut and skin four green Granny Smith apples then cube them adding them in a bowl with lemon juice as cut. Add apples minus as much lemon juice as you can remove to a 130-degree pot of 1-2 gallons of apple juice the light malt extract, and two cans of concentrate. Add in dextrose, honey, cinnamon, Irish moss, and the yeast nutrient when it reaches 140 degrees. Remove from heat and let steep with lid on for 15-20 minutes. Cool mix and add to the remaining apple juice, concentrate, and water to make 5.5 gallons of honey malt apple beverage goodness. Pitch yeast at 90-100 degrees. Ferment for 10 days.

Rack using a filter bag over to bottle for secondary and add in the vanilla, let clear in secondary. This may require a tertiary clearing also, so rack again to new clean bottle. I plan to bottle this with a cup of dextrose and let condition in fermentation temps for a week or two, checking on carbonation after five or six days.


I did brew this just last night and it has already started to bubble like crazy. The chick at the LHBS told me that it was their last Farmhouse pack and that it should be some interesting stuff to taste as she has never heard of anyone trying an apple-honey-malt ferment with a Belgian yeast before. I added in the spices because I have not used them in a brew yet and I also don't quite know if this thing will be ready before Christmas so it might have to be my Holiday Cygott.
 
This is not a cider! You are correct on the Cygott. With the OG this might have an issue with the Ale Yeast! But hey, let's see what happens. A lot of recipes like this were done in preparation for the Yule holiday in the medeval and Ren periods. I believe you should have some ready for the Christmas season. The honey will take longer to mellow but I have an idea this will have enough residual sweetnes that the bite will be masked.

Let us know how this turns out and keep working on the new receipes!
 
Well the attributes on this yeast say that it will work up to 12% ABV, and I used a nicely swelled smack pack + extra nutrients on it too but it has slowed down to very few bubbles already today. It was quite active just a few hours after pitching as I pitched at about 95 to kick it off well. I know it is going to be high ABV, what is the total pounds of sugar in this do you think with the juice and concentrate? I know it has at least 8-10 total lbs of fermentables in it, but I don't know exactly what the total juice and concentrate add to the lbs of fermentables.
 
I racked this over to a carboy about 6 days ago now and it is still bubbling at about 6 bubbles per minute. It is not at all clear, still very cloudy, but seems that it is still in active fermentation at this point. It smelled wonderful at racking but I didn't taste it at that time. I've been shaking the cargboy to mx it up, and it really gets it going after that. I plan on trying to get this bottled around the end of October and then whipping it out at Christmas time for a little Holiday Cheer, if you know what I mean. :D
 
This is now about right for a last week of rest after a filtered racking and then over to bottles. It does still have a very hot taste to it but the cinnamon is not overpowering and it has a good apple flavor. Still a little sweet but not more than I would expect from the malt and honey leaving some unfermented. I will bottle with some dextrose to carb it up and then leave it sit for at least 2 and a half months @ room temp to carb and age. I plan on cracking some open the third week in December and enjoying it through the end of the year and into the next.
 
just a suggestion - if it tastes a little sweet - check your gravity before bottling.
either it isn't done and you may get bottle bombs or the yeast has pooped out and adding priming sugar will just give you a sweeter flat beverage.
 
No, I have some unfinished mead, and that is cloyingly sweet, as to totally suggest that it is not done at all. This is way more dry but has a very slight sweetness but the clearing and alcohol taste are right in line with what I have tasted in higher ABV ciders that I have done before.
 

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