Cut back on Beer because the belly is too big?

[oldstyle69]

I've always had a slow metabolism, so losing weight, even when I was in my early 20s, has always been hard.

you can increase your metabolism by changing your diet. i also have a normally slow diet. i reduced my sugar intake to damn near zero, some fruits here and there and a beer every once in awhile, at the same time i increased the amount of times i ate thru out the day. normally i didnt eat in the morning, had lunch and a big dinner. now i try to eat about 6 times a day. smaller portions, lean meat and complex carbs and as much veggies as i want.

 

[naiek]

I was having the same problem so I cut back on food, not beer

 

[Darwin18]

It's all about moderation and whether you want to buy bigger pants. I try to avoid drinking at all during the weekdays and will have a few on the weekend. I also try to get to the gym 2 - 3 times a week, which is difficult with night classes M-Th every week until May. Brewing is a great hobby so I try to give as much away as possible to keep on brewing.

 

[Nuggethead]

The bigger my belly, the more beer it holds. Kinda like a camel.:rockin:

 

[Brewmance]

The alledged increase in estrogen from the hops in beer does not make it any easier to shed those pounds. At least it is only showing in your gut.


Disclaimer: I do not support or deny that imbibing hops increase Estrogen, but some of the research is convincing.

 

[Nuggethead]

The alledged increase in estrogen from the hops in beer does not make it any easier to shed those pounds. At least it is only showing in your gut.


Disclaimer: I do not support or deny that imbibing hops increase Estrogen, but some of the research is convincing.

That explains some posts I've read lately.

 

[Brewmance]

Rofl ^^

 

[Nightshade]

The alledged increase in estrogen from the hops in beer does not make it any easier to shed those pounds. At least it is only showing in your gut.


Disclaimer: I do not support or deny that imbibing hops increase Estrogen, but some of the research is convincing.

So we can get drunk and play with our own breasticles....I don't see a downside here

 

[unionrdr]

lolz Man ****ies!

 

[Nuggethead]

Yikes.... Mangina's.

 

[Cathedral]

 

[Billy-Klubb]

y'all could do what I did: get a tape worm! I named mine Phil. huh? Phil?

 

[PanzerBanana]

I burn enough working to cover a good beer. Plus my diet is mostly decent and I take opportunities to exercise a bit at home. I usually only have one beer a night when I'm in a mood to enjoy them. Now a lazy weekend hanging with my girl and friends at the pub. Then it's a good thing I walk several miles a day. Because I like my beers hearty.

 

[buzzman003]

Good stuff guys. I signed up for a myfitnesspal account and got the app on my iPad. I now have two days logged. Most of my diet has been homemade sandwiches and whole veggies and fruits so it has been easy to track. I also like that you can scan the barcode of a product and add it, like orange juice. Then I can log my workouts. I have been logging on the "high: side for food, and "low" side for exercise. I should be losing about 1.5 pounds a week.

I also decided that I really need to lose about 10 pounds and not 6. You can really see the difference when you're normally 6'2" and 173. 183 when it all goes to your gut looks terrible. I feel like a fat bastard!

I also started doing parts of the insanity workout while watching TV. Nothing to crazy, just the running in place, football moves, high knees, crunches, push-ups. Enough to really get a sweat and heart rate up. I did that last night and about to do it again. It only adds up to about 140 calories after 30 or 40 minutes, but that could be because I am tracking it low.

Any way - I took your advice and started incorporating it into my lifestyle. Thanks again!

 

[beerbeerbeer123]

To combat my belly i just mainline the beer straight from the carboy..quicker buzz less calories..haha..no i do try and limit my beer consumtion to a healthy level..more for my liver then my gut..I had very high enzymes last check up so i have to sacrifice..I want to drink 12 a day but i drink 2 a day..cheers

 

[Piratwolf]

I cut out processed grains (except for those in my beer) and so did Bob and we're both slim, lean and fit. I don't count calories, or even take them into account. I eat "real food", all the time. .

This is interesting to me b/c I lost about 50# by cutting out processed grains and exercising more. Gotta say, I felt amazing eating that way.

Yooper, do you mostly just eat meat, veggies, and nuts? Or am I missing a subtlety to your diet?

Thanks!

 

[Nightshade]

This is interesting to me b/c I lost about 50# by cutting out processed grains and exercising more. Gotta say, I felt amazing eating that way.

Yooper, do you mostly just eat meat, veggies, and nuts? Or am I missing a subtlety to your diet?

Thanks!

Make meat a secondary to veggies.
Don't eat fruit after a meal, give an hour or so before eating fruits.
Nuts are an excellent snack and contain a lot of protein.
Don't overdo the protein as the human body only needs something like 6 grams a day of protein to remain healthy (Do some research on this)
Shop the outside aisles of the store, everything in the aisles is crap food so keep it limited.
Once a week break your diet, then go right back to it. Having a rigid diet schedule is mentally taxing and you will always fall off the wagon if you try.
Lower intake of processed grains in things like breads and such, it is easy and has far more flavor than white bread or heavily processed wheat breads and is easy to do as well.
Exercise regularly, get your heart rate up for 30 minutes a day minimum.
Drink lots of water, cut sugars such as adding it to coffee (my downfall).

Biggest thing is to track calories and figure your intake needed to make it through a day...not the RDA average but do some math by trial and error then stick to it. As wass mentioned myfitnesspal which is available on Iphone or Droid OS is an easy way to do a lot of this.

 

[unionrdr]

When I was on the protien diet,I got16oz of protien per day split bewtween 3-4 meals. Balanced by good carbs,not bad ones. Shelled beans are bad,brussel sprouts boarderline diet-wise. I have the bok here somewhere. But more veggies than protien isn't quite right. Carbs are not my friend. I wind up needing more protiens than carbs. Carbs are like empty energy that takes a surprising amount of effort to burn. A lot more than even 2 hours can get rid of. I see stuff like this on today show as well.

 

[Nightshade]

When I was on the protien diet,I got16oz of protien per day split bewtween 3-4 meals. Balanced by good carbs,not bad ones. Shelled beans are bad,brussel sprouts boarderline diet-wise. I have the bok here somewhere. But more veggies than protien isn't quite right. Carbs are not my friend. I wind up needing more protiens than carbs. Carbs are like empty energy that takes a surprising amount of effort to burn. A lot more than even 2 hours can get rid of. I see stuff like this on today show as well.

Depends a lot on the type of carbs you are taking in, not all carbs are the same and the body converts them very differently while both are still needed by the body in some amounts.

 

[unionrdr]

That's why I made an example of "good" & "bad" carbs. The protien diet book has lists that go into a lot of detail about good & bad carbs as relates to diet. But in a nutshell,3/4's of your plate shouldn't be carbs. Balance is needed. The whole idea being that protiens are more complex molecules that use a lot of carbs to break down. That's why the diet works. You need to raise your keytone usage While keeping your insulin level exeptable. I'd have to dig the book out to get more accurate.

 

[dannylerch]

I don't eat bread, pasta, or starches. I get my bread from the beer ;-)

Eat a high protein diet, veggies, fruits, cheese, eggs, etc. Cut the bread and starches and you can have a few beers a day without packing on the pounds.

I lost 60 pounds when I did p90x last year. Just follow that diet, workout when you can, and good bye beer gut!

 

[Nightshade]

That's why I made an example of "good" & "bad" carbs. The protien diet book has lists that go into a lot of detail about good & bad carbs as relates to diet. But in a nutshell,3/4's of your plate shouldn't be carbs. Balance is needed. The whole idea being that protiens are more complex molecules that use a lot of carbs to break down. That's why the diet works. You need to raise your keytone usage While keeping your insulin level exeptable. I'd have to dig the book out to get more accurate.

I agree

I was just concerned that what happens in the mind is people hear "carbs bad" so they cut them all the way out then get "rabbit starved" as well as physical issues from cutting a necessary source of nutrition out because they think it is all the same.

 

[unionrdr]

Yup,but I agree with yooper on the fact that it's a wheat gut,not a beer gut. It seems making grain into beer is healthier for you in moderation than foods made more directly from grains. I lost some 140lbs on the protien diet a few years ago with my wife. We worked our way up to walking/jogging 6M per day. Regulars on the newer bike/walking path her in Sheffield off the far end of cascade park would say high,good morning,chit chat,etc as we became regulars. Boy,did that feel good. Folks seem happier when doing that kind of excersize. Then we started taking our short haired black lab Max with us. Boy did that dog have energy to burn.
Then my wife was in a really bad shunt. Only my "A's" in the living sciences helped her young docotrs save her. They were out of ideas,she was dying,they came to me. I'm the guy that keeps Mr dead in his pocket. And he damn sure wasn't getting out.
Anyway,I gained the weight back sitting with her after work & basically taking care of her. Now we're older & withbad joints,discs,pins in her leg,arthritis,etc we can't hardly walk let alone exercise. But that sob Mr dead is stayin in my pocket...
I'll have to go through the lists in my book. But green/yellow beans are good for one.

 

[unionrdr]

Ok,found the book,it's called "The Protien-Sparing Modified Fast Diet" By the department of nutritional therapy of the Cleveland Clinic Foundation.
Good carbs listed in book;
alfalfa sprouts 4oz raw
artichoke 1/2 medium or2.5oz raw or cooked
asparagus 5-6 spears raw or cooked
beans;greenyellow,waxed 1/2C canned,cooked,raw
bean sprouts 3/4C canned
broccoli 3.5ozcooked,or 1C raw
brussel sprouts 3 medium or 2oz cooked
green cabbage 1C shredded or raw,3.5oz cooked
carrots 1small raw, 1/2C cooked
cauliflower 1C raw or cooked
celery 3 stalks raw, or 3/4C chopped raw
cucumber 1 medium raw
eggplant 3.5oz or 1.2C cooked 1C raw
endive 30 leaves raw or cooked,or 3Cchpped,raw,cooked
escarole 4 large leaves raw or cooked
green pepper 1 large raw
greens 3.5 raw,1C cooked
lettuce 3.5oz or 3C chopped
mixed salad 3.5oz or 3C chopped
mushrooms 1.5C raw pieces,3/4C canned
onion 1/2 medium or 2oz raw,2oz or 1/3C cooked
pickles 2 large,4-6oz dill or kosher
radishes 10 medium 4.5oz raw or cooked
sauerkraut 1/2C or 3.5oz cooked
spinach 2.5C or 4.5oz raw 3/4C cooked
summer squash 1C raw or 3/4C cooked
tomato 1 small or 3.5oz raw,1/2C chopped raw,4oz canned & skinned
tomato sauce 1/4C all varieties
That's the "good carbs" listed in the book. Some stuff they say raw I cooked too with no adverse effects.

 

[coastwx]

I don't eat bread, pasta, or starches. I get my bread from the beer ;-)

Eat a high protein diet, veggies, fruits, cheese, eggs, etc. Cut the bread and starches and you can have a few beers a day without packing on the pounds.

I lost 60 pounds when I did p90x last year. Just follow that diet, workout when you can, and good bye beer gut!

Right on! When I started homebrewing I went from 185-190 to 215 lb within 6 months because weekend drinking transitioned into 2-3 pints a night during the week. I totally cut out breads, pastas and other carbs so the beer could fill in those calories. I grow most of our food, so focus on veggies and salads most of the year and cut meat servings in half. Started swimming a mile x 4 nights a week as pay for the 2 beers afterward. Dropped 25 lb fairly quick. Dang wife would still make comments around friends that I drank beer every night of the week. She was surprised 6 months ago when I completely stopped drinking during the week. I make up for a lot of that on Fri night and sports Saturdays, but it's quite exciting to pour that first beer on Fri after none for 5 days.

 

[techbrewie]

I'll stop drinking beer when there's six feet of dirt between me and the nearest homebrew.

this will be difficult if you decide to be buried with the homebrew

 

[unionrdr]

Don't need to cut meat servings 50% & raise carbs a couple hundred. Split 16 ounces of protiens per day into 4/4oz portions. Veggies according to my list.

 

[Nightshade]

Don't need to cut meat servings 50% & raise carbs a couple hundred. Split 16 ounces of protiens per day into 4/4oz portions. Veggies according to my list.

This is a big one for a lot of people because we have been trained that "meat = meal" so people sit down and eat an 8-12oz steak or a 1/2lb burger with all the trimmings and think nothing of it.

The body digests meat differently and a lot slower than it does other foods.

 

[unionrdr]

Like I said before,protiens are more complex molecules that your body burns carbs to break down into useable forms. Phenylalinine,for instance,metabolizes incoming protiens into the collegen surrounding muscle fibers.
So,at dinner an 8oz steak (lean) with steamed veggies from the list is very good. The book limits condiments as well. Big fatburgers are out for dieting purposes. Splurging once in a while is ok,but you can't live on that stuff.

 

[Nightshade]

Interesting you say that, I went vegetarian for about 4 months this year and shed weight quickly. Now I am back on a limited meat diet sticking mainly to fish and chicken prepared specific way (never fried) and vegetable centric eating habits for most meals and snacks except dinner.

I still have a fatburger now and again, but my body hasn't been doing well with pork and cow meat for a while now so I limit it in a major way to maybe once a week or less.