Custom Extract

[ericbw]

there are styles & characters you can get with PM that you can't with extract. I've gotten so far into it that mine have become mostly mashes with as much as 8.5lbs of grains & about 2lbs of extract. PM uses the same grains as AG, just not as much. so a lot more possibilities exist in PM vs steeping.

I would call that all grain they you're tweaking with extract. Just like if you made a dubbel that was grain and candi sugar. You'd call that "all grain."

I think what you do is pretty close to AG. You could easily do smaller batches and leave out the extract.

 

[robbyhicks]

Anthonie, how much of your grain mix do you have laying around and how much of your light dme? What options do you have for hops that need used up?

 

[ericbw]

Thanks for the suggestion. But what is the purpose of carapils and carafoam? It's seems like the two aren't very useful.

Also I have a 3 gallon batch so I planned to use the amount of grains necessary to replace the original amount of DME I was using by converting the extract to grain.

If you're using Munton's extra light (?) then I would use whatever 2-row is available to you. I use Briess because it's cheap and available. That's probably close to their extra light.

How much DME is in the recipe you have? Basically, a pound of DME per gallon gives you 1.045 original gravity. Assuming 70% efficiency with grain, you get about 1.025 original gravity with a pound of grain and a gallon of water.

You need 1.8 pounds of grain to get the same gravity as a pound of DME. PER GALLON.

I would either skip the random mix of grains altogether, OR add about 3-4 oz per gallon (9-12 oz total) to your mash. If you're just experimenting, ok, but it doesn't really teach you anything, because you'll never have that mix of grain again (because it is pretty much unknown what the ratios are and what kind of crystal).

 

[unionrdr]

I would call that all grain they you're tweaking with extract. Just like if you made a dubbel that was grain and candi sugar. You'd call that "all grain."

I think what you do is pretty close to AG. You could easily do smaller batches and leave out the extract.

It's not exactly the same as adding candi sugar. I just raised the PM amount in order to cut the more expensive extract amount. Close to AG, but still PM if any amount of extract is used. AG can & is tweaked with extract to get the OG sometimes. I'm using the extract as part of the recipe/flavor/color profile.

 

[ericbw]

It's not exactly the same as adding candi sugar. I just raised the PM amount in order to cut the more expensive extract amount. Close to AG, but still PM if any amount of extract is used. AG can & is tweaked with extract to get the OG sometimes. I'm using the extract as part of the recipe/flavor/color profile.

I think the line of differentiation should be if your fermentables are more than 50% extract, then it is a partial mash. Anything else is just augmenting a grain batch. And the things you're doing are more complicated in some ways than what some all grain brewers do.

 

[unionrdr]

Especially with rare or extinct beers. Trying to match the flavors & colors of them with modern grains is interesting, to say the least. But over-all, not all that complicated. Mash, sparge, boil, hop additions, cool, ferment.

 

[foley178]

Anyone have a relative easy / cheap IPA recipe with extract?

 

[ericbw]

Look in the recipe section under IPA. And remember that any recipe can be converted to extract.

If there's a specific beer you like, there might even be a clone recipe in that section.

 

[Anthonie]

Keep me posted on this sounds like it'll be a good one

My hop schedule:

.6oz citra full boil (60min)
.6oz citra 30 min
.6oz citra 15 min
.6oz citra 10 min
.6oz citra 5 min
1.2 oz citra dry hop 7 days

This is very hoppy which I like. Next time I may take out the 30 minute, leave the 60, and reduce the rest of the times to 10,5, and 0. I do believe the dry hop is key to this beer. Also on second thought of you want to get into a partial mash carafoam or Crystal may level out the bitterness of it is added in with the extra light DME. Just some thoughts.