Crystal Hops in Stout?

[Clint Yeastwood]

Last time I used an ounce at 60 and 1.5 ounces at 30. Came out perfect. Do people use Magnum in stout?

Beersmith thinks I'm at 50, but I believe that's wrong. I believe I need to contact the HBS and get the number from the hops they sent. I have the same number I had in my last batch 18 years ago, and I don't think that's correct.

 

[BongoYodeler]

What ibu's are you shooting for? EKG for bittering is going to take a LOT when compared to something like Magnum.

For instance, I just played with my recipe. I took out the 2 oz of Magnum at 60 mins. and had to replace it with nearly 8 oz of EKG to get to the same ibu level. To me that would be a waste. Magnum is really neutral. I'd prefer to add the flavor hops later rather than waste them as bittering hops.

 

[DBhomebrew]

Date on that thing is 1965.

And?

 

[Clint Yeastwood]

For instance, I just played with my recipe. I took out the 2 oz of Magnum at 60 mins. and had to replace it with nearly 8 oz of EKG to get to the same ibu level. To me that would be a waste. Magnum is really neutral. I'd prefer to add the flavor hops later rather than waste them as bittering hops.

I think that's right, but brewing is a form of cooking, and one thing I've learned as a cook is to avoid changing multiple variables when trying new things. I can always use Magnum in the future.

 

[BrewnWKopperKat]

And?

Maybe at the home brew level, 1965 is not "modern"?

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The video did spent too much time comparing the "new" approach (positive) to the "old" approach (negative). Setting that aside, ...

The video does a good job of consolidating some current ideas for making 2020-ish hop forward styles.

For the 60 to 30 min hop adjustment, start by adding 30% more hops (for Tinsenth-based estimation). That number (25% or 30%) has been part of forum wisdom for a while (perhaps a couple of generations of "modern" ).

More generally, longer boils can add colors (e.g. Evil Twin (yet again)) and flavors (two hour boils for barley wines) that can not be created with other ingredients.

Picking the right boil time for the style / recipe can have positive influence on the beer.

 

[bellhp]

Do people use Magnum in stout?

The one I made last night had Magnum @ 60 mins and Fuggles at 10 min. I was going for 40 ibus . It was based on Charlie Papazians " Toad spit stout "

 

[BongoYodeler]

The one I made last night had Magnum @ 60 mins and Fuggles at 10 min. I was going for 40 ibus . It was based on Charlie Papazians " Toad spit stout "

I tend to bitter my stouts slightly more than I would want fresh. I like to age them a few months and their bitterness will mello out over time.

*And yes, I also bitter most of my beers, including stouts, with Magnum.