Cream Ale Cream of Three Crops (Cream Ale)

[RevKev]

Changed things up a bit taking this as inspiration. Goal is 10 gallon batch.

19# Briess Pilsen
2# Bestmalz Vienna
2# Briess Flaked Rice
2# Briess Flaked Maize
5/8# Dextrose
1/4# Briess C60

10min→0.5oz Mandarina Bavaria (6%AA)
5min→1.5oz Mandarina Bavaria (6%AA)
0min/WP→1.5oz Mandarina Bavaria (6%AA)

Fermented with US05. Will report back results, the original smell of the hops have a big melon nose with touches of floral citrus. Could be awesome!

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[BrewRunning]

Kegged the US-04 batch today. Ended about as expected after all the threads I've read on US-04. Fermented quickly, finished very clear, taste is slightly sweeter. Very happy, can't wait to see how it turns out once it is carbonated. It will definitely make my wife and several BMC drinkers very happy!View attachment ImageUploadedByHome Brew1490227481.305149.jpg

 

[RevKev]

Well. Results will be postponed as my smoothest brew day ever with good efficiency at 85% ending up with 12 gallons of 1.067 wort that got pissed away due to a clumbsy​ fall moving the kettle that also made a dent in said kettle. Will rebrew next week after I repair the holes I punched in the wall.

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[bonecitybrewco]

Well. Results will be postponed as my smoothest brew day ever with good efficiency at 85% ending up with 12 gallons of 1.067 wort that got pissed away due to a clumbsy​ fall moving the kettle that also made a dent in said kettle. Will rebrew next week after I repair the holes I punched in the wall.

Holy crap! I feel for ya man! That's rough!

 

[BrewRunning]

Well. Results will be postponed as my smoothest brew day ever with good efficiency at 85% ending up with 12 gallons of 1.067 wort that got pissed away due to a clumbsy​ fall moving the kettle that also made a dent in said kettle. Will rebrew next week after I repair the holes I punched in the wall.

That really sucks!!!

 

[RevKev]

Holy crap! I feel for ya man! That's rough!

That really sucks!!!

Yeah had my wort cooled to 70°F in thirty minutes too with my new IC I just made, writing it off as a teachable moment.

 

[Jozzie]

Damn! That sucks. That's like when I decided to put 2 carboys by eachother just after I cleaned em so both were soaking wet... Went to lift the one to pour some wort in the other and instead it slipped right out of my hands smashed into the other carboy and shattered.

 

[Jozzie]

I filmed my cream of 3 Crops a few weeks ago.

https://youtu.be/boQM84kW0jo

 

[JayInAmes]

I filmed my cream of 3 Crops a few weeks ago.

https://youtu.be/boQM84kW0jo

Nicely done! I hope you like Cream of 3 Hops as much as I did!

 

[Jozzie]

Nicely done! I hope you like Cream of 3 Hops as much as I did!

Thabks! Appreciate it.
I'm looking forward to this new batch. The OP I found the corn flavour to be too much.

I'll be making quite a few more videos.. next one I'll be doing will be on yeast washing. I pitched my washed us05 for my current batch and it took off like a hot damn! Started fermenting in an hour with no starter.

 

[wh7699]

what is corn flaked?Can I buy some corn to crush it and then heat it to
140 or 158 F?

 

[Bmoney1215]

It is also called flaked maize, you just put it in with the rest of your mash at 152° or whatever your mash temp may be. Also don't crush the flaked corn in a grinder just put it in with your crushed grains.

 

[z-bob]

what is corn flaked?Can I buy some corn to crush it and then heat it to
140 or 158 F?

Your local homebrew store should sell flaked corn; it's precooked and you can just add it directly to the mash.

If you have an air popper, you can substitute popped popcorn. (a pound of popcorn is a lot)

 

[baumer64]

Thanks BierMuncher!!! My first try at this turned out great!!!
7 lbs. 2 Row Pale Malt US
2.5 lbs. Corn Flaked
.75 lbs Minute Rice
.5 lbs Cara-Pils/Dextrine
Hops (Leaf):
.7 Crystal
.7 Willamette both at 60 minutes
(added in the remaining .3 of each hop in final 15 min.)
Yeast: WLP 080 Cream Ale (2nd Generation)
Post-Boil OG: 1.057
Final: 1.012 ABV: 4.98
Brew date was 2/15. Kegged 3/9

This is very smooth dry and very clear. Cold crashed and used gelatin for the first time. Also first time reusing yeast. I'll be making more of this for the summer no doubt!

 

[Jozzie]

Gelatin is awesome eh!! i crash all my beers with it and going to crash this one in a few minutes. Added 1oz of cascade dry hop to it.

 

[Kampenken]

...
I'll be making quite a few more videos.. next one I'll be doing will be on yeast washing....

Why do you wash yeast? Seems opinion has moved to harvesting yeast as is and repitch slurry. This is what I've done for years now without any issues. Quick and effective.

 

[RevKev]

Why do you wash yeast? Seems opinion has moved to harvesting yeast as is and repitch slurry. This is what I've done for years now without any issues. Quick and effective.

Washing is typical of large generation commercial brewers.. I think it's for sanitization reasons at that scale.

 

[Jozzie]

Why do you wash yeast? Seems opinion has moved to harvesting yeast as is and repitch slurry. This is what I've done for years now without any issues. Quick and effective.

You can pitch over for sure but wash for different style. I've always just washed and added to mason jars for further pitches.

 

[seabrew8]

Gelatin is awesome eh!! i crash all my beers with it and going to crash this one in a few minutes. Added 1oz of cascade dry hop to it.

Yeah gelatin works great to clear beer. Just make sure its cold.

 

[Kampenken]

You can pitch over for sure but wash for different style. I've always just washed and added to mason jars for further pitches.

Hmmm, I haven't picked up any issues with different style beers using slurry but have thought there could be an impact. Might be something to test. I prefer not to rinse if there isn't an advantage but am all for it if it does. Also been thinking of freezing yeasts as I may not repeat the same yeast for months.

 

[ten80]

Hmmm, I haven't picked up any issues with different style beers using slurry but have thought there could be an impact. Might be something to test. I prefer not to rinse if there isn't an advantage but am all for it if it does. Also been thinking of freezing yeasts as I may not repeat the same yeast for months.

Washing reduces chances of contamination if an acid is used to inhibit bacteria.

Freezing yeast requires a freezer that doesn't have auto defrosting. Most freezers auto-cycle temperatures to de-frost themselves and the temperature swings will kill yeast. You must use a glycerol solution to suspend the yeast and prevent freezing and lysing (exploding) the cells.

Back on topic, I plan to brew this beer this weekend using WLP838 Southern German Lager Yeast that was on sale at my brew shop. According to White Labs: "This yeast is characterized by a malty finish and balanced aroma. It is a strong fermentor, produces slight sulfur, and low diacetyl." I'm hoping for increased smoothness of flavor and mouthfeel by using a lager yeast. I'll be using the accelerated (Tasty McDole) lager method with a temperature ramp to 70F over two weeks. I may have to add WLP001 to get the beer to drop below 1.010 given the lager yeast's low-moderate attenuation potential.

Anyone else play with lager yeast and this recipe?

 

[hio3791]

Anyone else play with lager yeast and this recipe?

I brewed a 10g "imperial" version (OG of 1.064) of this back in February. 5g went with Safale US05 and the other with Saflager W34/70. Both were fermented at 59. The ale was delicious. I'm picking some small esters on the lager. I suspect I didn't pitch enough yeast.

I fermented it at 59 since people reported that they have used this lager yeast at ale temps with good success.

I'm planning to brew a German pilsner this weekend using the same lager yeast. This time, I'll pitch more yeast, start colder but follow the lager instructions from Brulosophy, which I believe are based similar to what you're​ attempting.

 

[SailorJerry]

Looking for this for an extract recipe - can steep grains as needed.
Any ideas?

 

[Jozzie]

Looking for this for an extract recipe - can steep grains as needed.
Any ideas?

just multiply the number of pounds of pale malt by 0.75 to get the pounds of liquid extract.

 

[JayInAmes]

Bottled up 58 bottles yesterday, had a little extra. Batch #2 of this, loved the first one, this one tasted better.

 

[Jozzie]

Bottled up 58 bottles yesterday, had a little extra. Batch #2 of this, loved the first one, this one tasted better.

Did you end up modifying the bill as well?

 

[JayInAmes]

Did you end up modifying the bill as well?

Yes, I cut the corn by a pound, and upped the rice by the same amount.

 

[wh7699]

Can I use lager yeast just like S-189 ?Does the lager yeast be better?

 

[ten80]

Well, this is a fun recipe to play with and I was going to be creative and make a "cream of four crops" version of this beer using 2-row, corn, rice, and some flaked oats. Turns out that I forgot the rice, so I ended up with an unexpected three crop variant . I split the wort three ways and pitched different yeasts:

Safale 34/70 (52 F)
Southern German Lager (52 F)
Belgian Saison II (64 F)

It will be interesting to see how the beer differs from the previous batch I brewed using trusty Safale US-05.

 

[JonM]

Just picked up ingredients for a 5 gallon batch of this - $14! And that's WITH a packet of buffer solution to calibrate the pH meter.