Cream Ale Cream of Three Crops (Cream Ale)

[Jupapabear]

LOL, it's the men's version of a baby shower. Men cut out all the nonsense. Beer. Food. Diapers. That's it.

Yup. I had plenty of bbq and beer on tap for our diaper party. Daughter is 8 months old today and I've only bought 2 cases of diapers for her so far. Diaper parties are the way to go.

Just started the mash for this one, and have two other recipes to brew today. Have a good brewing Sunday yall!

 

[mattkm]

I just brewed up a batch of this yesterday, pretty excited, it was my 3rd all grain.
Did a 5 gal batch
6lbs 2 row
2lbs flaked corn
1lb minute rice
1 oz Willamette
Us-05
Pretty much to the original recipe, and went really well, but hit 1.050.
My question is about clearing it up, I use a fast fermenter, and also plan on using gelatin for the first time and try to get it even clearer. But, I use bottles, if you clear it up too much will it be hard to get it to carb in the bottles? Even when really clear is there still enough left over suspended yeast to help?
Maybe this question would be better for a different section....
Matt

 

[bonecitybrewco]

I just brewed up a batch of this yesterday, pretty excited, it was my 3rd all grain.

Did a 5 gal batch

6lbs 2 row

2lbs flaked corn

1lb minute rice

1 oz Willamette

Us-05

Pretty much to the original recipe, and went really well, but hit 1.050.

My question is about clearing it up, I use a fast fermenter, and also plan on using gelatin for the first time and try to get it even clearer. But, I use bottles, if you clear it up too much will it be hard to get it to carb in the bottles? Even when really clear is there still enough left over suspended yeast to help?

Maybe this question would be better for a different section....

Matt

Really, I find that the only difference gelatine provides with bottling is less Yeast and sediment going to the bottles overall. I mean, I guess with less Yeast it may or may not clear faster once into the fridge, but still. There will be more than enough Yeast leftover to carbonate the bottles. Non issue.

 

[BroomVikin]

My question is about clearing it up...I also plan on using gelatin for the first time and try to get it even clearer.

I've made this a few times w/o gelatin, Irish Moss, or any type of fining agent at all. It really is amazing how clear this recipe gets all on its own.

 

[mattkm]

Awesome, thanks guys!
Matt

 

[Jaybird]

I ALWAYS struggle to get this beer clear. LOL NOT!

This is ABSOLUTELY the easiest and fastest clearer~! I do use Irish Moss as I do in just about everything I make but MAN does this beer clear well!

Its funny! The picture is fuzzy but the beer is clear..LOL


Cheers
Jay

 

[BrewRunning]

I'm thinking of brewing this beer soon, I've been promising my wife that I will brew something for her and this looks perfect! I have a few questions about changing up the recipe to be able to brew with what I have on hand right now. Anyone see anything wrong with this recipe?

6# Maris Otter
1.5# instant grits
1.5# minute rice
.75oz Hallertauer
US-05

Also, when plugging this in to bru'n water what is the best water profile to shoot for?

Thanks

 

[WesM63]

I'm thinking of brewing this beer soon, I've been promising my wife that I will brew something for her and this looks perfect! I have a few questions about changing up the recipe to be able to brew with what I have on hand right now. Anyone see anything wrong with this recipe?

6# Maris Otter
1.5# instant grits
1.5# minute rice
.75oz Hallertauer
US-05

Also, when plugging this in to bru'n water what is the best water profile to shoot for?

Thanks

Right or wrong, i used the american lager profile in bru'n water.

It turned out really good. It didn't ferment down quite as low as i would of expected (1.015), so there was a tad bit of residual sweetness.


The funny part is, I brewed this specifically for the diaper party, expecting people to drink tons of it. They kicked my keg of Dorado XPA and it was the only thing people talked about.

 

[BrewRunning]

I was thinking either the American lager or the yellow dry. I wasn't sure which would be better. Thanks for the input!

What mash PH did you shoot for, around 5.3?

 

[SirHC_]

My 10 gallons are conditioned and tasty. The 05 batch is a good clean beer, easy drinking. The T58 batch is outstanding! That yeast in this beer is just amazing. Not an American Cream Ale anymore, but a damn good beer. 05 batch finished at 1006 or so, 5.78% ABV, the T58 finished at 1004, 6.04% ABV.

 

[WesM63]

I was thinking either the American lager or the yellow dry. I wasn't sure which would be better. Thanks for the input!

What mash PH did you shoot for, around 5.3?

Yes, pH of 5.3 using the American Lager profile in bru'n water.

 

[RevKev]

I'm thinking this could be a cool base for a Luponic Distortion style brew.. I have some new hops coming I think I'll experiment.. been craving something light

 

[BrewRunning]

Yes, pH of 5.3 using the American Lager profile in bru'n water.

Thanks! That's what I'm gonna go with.

 

[RevKev]

I talked to a BJCP judge today and it said I was going to add either Belma, Mandarina Bavaria or Hallertau Blanc to this and he said in his last competition at the best of show table they had a cream ale and wanted it to have some esters from the yeast or some citrusy hops and it would have taken BoS

 

[Jozzie]

I brewed this up (10gal) using hallertau and palisade hops, turned out great with notty.

Gonna try 05 next, .50 less corn from 2 lbs and just a 1hop brew.

 

[hio3791]

Brewed up a 10g batch 2 weeks back. Added Vienna for body and flavor, Sterling for hops. OG was 1.058. I split the batch between 2 buckets, US05 on one and W34/70 on the other.

Kegged the ale today. FG was 1.006, making for a 6.4% cream ale. Taste was fantastic.

Really excited to see how the lager turns out!

 

[SirHC_]

I talked to a BJCP judge today and it said I was going to add either Belma, Mandarina Bavaria or Hallertau Blanc to this and he said in his last competition at the best of show table they had a cream ale and wanted it to have some esters from the yeast or some citrusy hops and it would have taken BoS

While I'm not sure if esters or noticable hops are really in line w a traditional American Cream Ale, it is a good base to experiment with. When I brewed my 11 gallons awhile back, I did 5gallons with 05, 5gallons w T58, and 1.25 gallons with sage and 05.

I pulled off 5qt of the beer after the boil, preferment and boiled about 1/3 oz fresh sage, leaves and stems, for 5 min and fermented that with 05 in my old Mr beer. Very cloudy and over carbed but pretty dang tasty. Had one with lunch yesterday!

 

[CU_tony]

I just can't keep this beer on tap! I've blown through three kegs of this, the last one only lasted me two weeks (that I was home for) and a party.
I used nugget last time and enjoyed the lemon flavor that I perceived and am looking forward to cranking out another batch of this tomorrow. Have to see what hops I have on hand to use for this one!

 

[RevKev]

While I'm not sure if esters or noticable hops are really in line w a traditional American Cream Ale, it is a good base to experiment with. When I brewed my 11 gallons awhile back, I did 5gallons with 05, 5gallons w T58, and 1.25 gallons with sage and 05.

I pulled off 5qt of the beer after the boil, preferment and boiled about 1/3 oz fresh sage, leaves and stems, for 5 min and fermented that with 05 in my old Mr beer. Very cloudy and over carbed but pretty dang tasty. Had one with lunch yesterday!

Yeah the exact words were "without any of that it's just a cream ale" I suppose not tradition in the modern style but historically cream ales had bitterness around 20-30IBU and were even dry hopped sometimes. Definitely a good base I picked up my flaked corn the other day and as for minute rice does anyone have a particular brand they use? I forgot to pick up flaked rice and figured trip to grocery store is easier

 

[HomeDrewBrew]

Just curious what water profile people are having sucess with for this beer?.
Thanks

 

[BrewRunning]

Just curious what water profile people are having sucess with for this beer?.
Thanks

I asked the same question and was told that success has been had with the American Lager profile in Bru'n Water. That's the profile I'm going to use for my first attempt at brewing this one this weekend.

 

[bonecitybrewco]

Just curious what water profile people are having sucess with for this beer?.
Thanks

I have used the yellow balanced profile in Bru'n water with much success. Anything light and simple.

 

[Jozzie]

I'm using straight out of the tap for mine.. Infact for all brews. Water here in Vancouver is pretty damn good.

 

[SirHC_]

Water here is just too chlorinated. I use 2 gallons boiled tap and the balance RO water for a 5 g batch. Works great so far.

 

[SirHC_]

Yeah the exact words were "without any of that it's just a cream ale" I suppose not tradition in the modern style but historically cream ales had bitterness around 20-30IBU and were even dry hopped sometimes. Definitely a good base I picked up my flaked corn the other day and as for minute rice does anyone have a particular brand they use? I forgot to pick up flaked rice and figured trip to grocery store is easier

I just used the store brand instant brown rice (Hy-Vee around here). Thought it might add a depth of flavor but nothing I noticed.

 

[Jozzie]

Water here is just too chlorinated. I use 2 gallons boiled tap and the balance RO water for a 5 g batch. Works great so far.

Why not do the ol, pour 7 gallons or whatever you need for your batch into your kettle and leave it out overnight? Water here in Vancouver is chlorinated as well but that seems to help. I've tried Campden tablets in the water as well " apparently says beer Smith ur supposed to add tablet/s to the mash for 60 min."

 

[BrewRunning]

Anyone know how US-04 would do in this beer? I just realized I only have a half packet of 05. If 05 is better then would half a packet be enough for a 5 gallon batch?

 

[Jozzie]

Anyone know how US-04 would do in this beer? I just realized I only have a half packet of 05. If 05 is better then would half a packet be enough for a 5 gallon batch?

Depending on your OG. If your under 5% I'd say use the 05 just hydrate first.

 

[BrewRunning]

I decided just to go with a 6 gallon batch. Did 5 gallons with 04 and 1 gallon with 05. Now I can truly compare the difference between them with everything else the same.

 

[Jozzie]

I decided just to go with a 6 gallon batch. Did 5 gallons with 04 and 1 gallon with 05. Now I can truly compare the difference between them with everything else the same.

Now, just wash the yeast when done and you can make more with the same batch