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I'm using Brewtarget. I attached a screenshot. I'm thinking the color is pretty close to the estimate. I can't think of anything you could add that would keep it in style except to maybe toast a bit of your two row to add some color. I'd be careful not to get too much crystal malt flavor. Or, you could use a little 10L. Personally, I think the light color adds to the visual appeal.

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evandena said:
Crap, I was going to brew this for a work party, and nome LHBS is out of flaked corn. Great.

Go to the grocery store. Buy a box of corn flakes (sound familiar???).

Grits or polenta would also work, but take a bit more work to use.
 
Go to the grocery store. Buy a box of corn flakes (sound familiar???).

Grits or polenta would also work, but take a bit more work to use.

+1 on the corn flakes

I have bought the generic unsweetend corn flakes and used them in a ceral mash as a replacement for the flaked corn. I added 20% more for the corn flakes in my adjustment.
 
emjay said:
Go to the grocery store. Buy a box of corn flakes (sound familiar???).

Grits or polenta would also work, but take a bit more work to use.

Darn. Did a blonde instead.
1:1 on the corn flakes to flaked corn?
 
evandena said:
Darn. Did a blonde instead.
1:1 on the corn flakes to flaked corn?

I would say so, given that corn flakes ARE flaked corn (hence the name...). Not sure why the poster above you thinks otherwise.

As he said though, you'll want unsweetened generic corn flakes (instead of, say, brand name Frosted Flakes). Unsweetened because you don't want that extra sugar (unless you want to modify this recipe a bit, though it'd probably make it too thin), and generic because there's no point in paying more for pretty much the same thing... In fact, generics often have a bit more corn flavor than the Kelloggs brand name, which is milder by design.

You shouldn't need to do a cereal mash either, they've been pre-gelatinized, and are ready to be mashed. With grits or polenta you'd probably want to, but that's still technically unnecessary with corn and would only be to make them less "glue"-like in the mash.
 
kapbrew13 said:
Make sure to use extra rice hulls or peanut shells. Helps prevent stuck sparges.

I don't use hulls or anything and I grind my flaked with the grains for the hell of it.. I see better efficiency when I do so it just depends on the filter setup in the MT.. :mug:
 
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i am going to brew this tomorrow, have everything ready but have a couple questions that i would love to have answered if possible.

what temp did you sparge? do you wait to sparge after the entire 90 minute mash? i am sorry as i am new to all grain, going to get the first use of my home-made mash tun with this recipe.

thank you for this recipe, i think my bmc loving friends just might finally drink some of my homebrew!


Cream Ale Recipe

This is a very simple, inexpensive cream ale recipe that will get every BMC drinker in the room enjoying homebrew. So named because of the three different crops that go into the grist (Barley, Corn and Rice).

I brewed up 10 gallons of this and after kegging, bottled up a case to take to a family event (Mothers Day). Even my 78-yr old FIL, who is strict Miller Lite drinker, ended up having two pints. The chics dug it and we ran out well before the end of the evening.

The grain bill is cheap and in this case, you can use Minute Rice instead of flaked rice. No step mashing required. Simply combine the ingredients and follow a simple single infusion mash at around 152 degrees. I also mashed this for 90 minutes to get a highly attenuated beer. FG was 1.005...leaving a very dry, crisp beer with no noticeable graininess.

While this doesn't adhere to the strict beer laws, and I don't consider this one of my "craft" efforts, it is without a doubt the beer that I get the most "you really made this beer?" comments.

So if you've got some hard core "If it ain't Budweiser it ain't beer…" drinking friends…give this a try.

This beer clears up quickest of any of my recipes.

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Batch Size: 11.50 gal
Boil Size: 14.26 gal
Estimated OG: 1.040 SG
Estimated Color: 2.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 14.3 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.0 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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12.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)
4.00 lb Corn, Flaked (1.3 SRM)
1.00 lb Minute Rice (1.0 SRM)

1.00 oz Williamette [5.20%] (60 min)
1.00 oz Crystal [3.50%] (60 min)

 
i am going to brew this tomorrow, have everything ready but have a couple questions that i would love to have answered if possible.

what temp did you sparge? do you wait to sparge after the entire 90 minute mash? i am sorry as i am new to all grain, going to get the first use of my home-made mash tun with this recipe.

thank you for this recipe, i think my bmc loving friends just might finally drink some of my homebrew!
Yes..Begin the Sparge after 90 minutes.
My process is to Drain the mash till it about an inch above the grain bed lay in a piece of aluminium foil over the bed and poke some holes in it. I heat my water to 170-180 and use about a half gallon at a time to sparge with the valve open enough to get a nice slow flow.
I have also done a batch sparge buy draining the cooler and then adding all of the sparge water at 170 stirring it up and letting it sit for 10-15 minutes. then collect the rest of the wort. I found I get a few extra points with smaller batches of water. Either way this recipe has turned out great.
 
that is EXACTLY what i needed to hear. thankyou so much! it has been mashing for 25 minutes now, hit my target temp spot on!


Yes..Begin the Sparge after 90 minutes.
My process is to Drain the mash till it about an inch above the grain bed lay in a piece of aluminium foil over the bed and poke some holes in it. I heat my water to 170-180 and use about a half gallon at a time to sparge with the valve open enough to get a nice slow flow.
I have also done a batch sparge buy draining the cooler and then adding all of the sparge water at 170 stirring it up and letting it sit for 10-15 minutes. then collect the rest of the wort. I found I get a few extra points with smaller batches of water. Either way this recipe has turned out great.
 
Darn. Did a blonde instead.
1:1 on the corn flakes to flaked corn?

I used a product called "Goya P.A.N" For this recipe. Its precooked cornmeal. No cereal mash needed. comes in yellow and white. Used it 1:1 for flaked corn. turned out well. I found it in the Ethnic Dept of my local grocery. 1 kilo for around 3-4 bucks.
I dont use Rice hulls but I do use a 5 gallon paint filter over top of the manifold. They are cheap you can buy them at any paint supplier or big hardware store and they are reusable many time over. Have not had a stuck sparge since I started using them. They also make great bucket cleaners once they are a bit worn, holds lots of soap bubbles and doesn't scratch the bucket.
 
How come the 10 gallon and 5.5 gallon versions both use the same amount of Minute Rice?
 
How much will using 2 row brewers malt instead of pale malt affect the flavor? Can I add something to help it taste like pale malt was added?
 
msa8967 said:
For recipes like this I have substituted 2-row for pale malt w/o any taste difference. You won't need to add anything to compensate.

Thank you. Im brewing this as we speak!
 
I brewed five gallons of this and it is done in primary. Smells good. I will be kegging four gallons and racking the remaining gallon over raspberries. I can't wait for this!
 
This may be my fourth or fifth batch of this. I am trying water treatments, and went with somewhere between a dry and a sweet pale ale. Definitely happy with the color, which is very light. Before boil, I had about 11 brix. I ended up with a little over 4.5 gallons. I expect this to be a good beer. It sure looked great going into the fermenter! A friend of mine happened to have a starter of S-05 ready to pitch, so I traded him a pack of Nottingham, and it is very active less than a couple hours from pitching.
I love this beer.
 
Just bottled 11 gallons of this recipe. For some reason I had super efficiency on the mash (86% measured) so my OG was high at 1.049. Beer finished at a super dry 1.008! 5.5% ABV! This is for my brother's wedding...I have a feeling there will be a few drunk people on this...it tastes super smooth at bottling! Doesn't taste like it has over 4.0% abv.
 
I used a product called "Goya P.A.N" For this recipe. Its precooked cornmeal. No cereal mash needed. comes in yellow and white. Used it 1:1 for flaked corn. turned out well. I found it in the Ethnic Dept of my local grocery. 1 kilo for around 3-4 bucks.
I dont use Rice hulls but I do use a 5 gallon paint filter over top of the manifold. They are cheap you can buy them at any paint supplier or big hardware store and they are reusable many time over. Have not had a stuck sparge since I started using them. They also make great bucket cleaners once they are a bit worn, holds lots of soap bubbles and doesn't scratch the bucket.

I made a copper manifold like the one in John Palmer's book. I get great efficiency but I always have take it completely apart to clean after brewing to get out all the little husk pieces that slip through the slits. (glad I didn't solder it together.)

Anyway, putting a paint-strainer bag over my manifold is a great idea! Thanks! =)
 
Brewed 5.5 gallons yesterday, OG was 1.052...oops. I guess it will be a bit stronger than planned.
 
I made a copper manifold like the one in John Palmer's book. I get great efficiency but I always have take it completely apart to clean after brewing to get out all the little husk pieces that slip through the slits. (glad I didn't solder it together.)

Anyway, putting a paint-strainer bag over my manifold is a great idea! Thanks! =)

I do the same thing. It's genius.
 
This is a great, crisp beer. But I'm also a bit torn over the corn flavor.

Do you think I can sub carapils for some similar mouthfeel without the corn taste?

Cheers.:mug:
 
Dgonza9 said:
This is a great, crisp beer. But I'm also a bit torn over the corn flavor.

Do you think I can sub carapils for some similar mouthfeel without the corn taste?

Cheers.:mug:

Is the corn flavor truly from the corn or process driven? I've done pre-pro lagers in the general grist profile of this and never had corn jump out at me in flavor. Maybe a touch of sweetness, but definitely not "corny".
 
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