Cream Ale Cream of Three Crops (Cream Ale)

[lukem5]

I just brewed a 5g batch of this and used 2 oz of amarillo on this batch. I think I may have added too many hops for the beer style, as I forgot to half the recipe when it came to hops...

My propane ran out after about an hour of boiling, but I did get a 90 min mash in.

OG was 1.042

I think my efficiency was up to par.

I also added a half lb of carapils to this recipe.

I also am using wlp029 I heard this stuff gives a great finish if kept low fermenting

I will let yall know how it turns out, the airlock is bubbling a little now and it smells gooooood. I think this will turn out alright, its my first all grain and from the reviews it seems like you can't go wrong with this recipe!

Although the attentuation is a problem I should have forseen, I did not add yeast nutrient, so well see if she goes down or not.

She went down from 1.042 to 1.004, I could have let her sit a lil longer but I couldn't wait, she was already in sec. for 2 weeks. (using kolsch yeast wlp029)

And I am confused as to how to calculate attenuation...

[(OG-FG)/(OG-1)] x 100

So thats [(1.042-1.004)/(1.042-1)] x 100 =

.038/.042 X 100 = 90.4

So thats 90% attenuation???!?!? that seems VERY high??? am I doing it wrong??

white labs says this attenuates from 72-78 %
Any help greatly appreciated!


Back to non-math beer loving reality the beer looks like it turned out great, I tasted it and I think its gonna be good when its carbed. I got the "corny" taste people are talking about, but I like it, then again I like pabst too.

The amarillo paired very well with this recipe.

It is in the fridge right now with gelatin finings to make it nice n clear

ill be bottling tonight after 4 days in the fridge, it looks pretty clear to me.

 

[Mudflap]

Ok, here's my final thought on this experience: I was the guy that was brewing this for my sister's wedding and cut back the corn and raised the rice because I was scared of too much corny-ness that some folks were reporting. Well, the wedding was last weekend and the beer was a hit. Both kegs kicked and lots of praise from all the BMC drinkers in the house. My thoughts...it was good, very clean, but lacking a bit for MY craft beer taste. There was no taste of corn, at all really. If I were to have a situation requiring me to do this again, I would follow BM's recipe. I think a bit more corn taste would have been nice, for me at least. And I don't think it would've put off the BMC'ers either. Anyways, overall very good experience and recipe. Sis was happy, guests were happy, and I got to take the credit If you're in the same situation as me and worried about over-corning don't fear the corn!

 

[lukem5]

I am going to be adding more rice to this for my next batch, infact I am thinking about HALFING the grain/corn and filling the rest with rice, is this too much rice?

What can I do to bring back some of that body ill lose with all the rice? High protein grains like 6 row?

What else can I do to make this a more all around good beer?

 

[Pandaren]

What else can I do to make this a more all around good beer?

lol, leave it the way it was written!

 

[BierMuncher]

lol, leave it the way it was written!

I echo your sentiment.

 

[lukem5]

you guys dont seem to get it. I live in hawaii and the grain here costs $2 a lb and it isnt even fresh. I need to find a good rice beer, thats not sake, sake isnt even beer btw so stop saying make sake!!!

 

[rossi46]

you guys dont seem to get it. I live in hawaii and the grain here costs $2 a lb and it isnt even fresh.

Wish I had your problem. JK

 

[cbdeacon]

This beer...the original recipe by BierMuncher...is probably the best homebrew I've
ever had anywhere and I'm 63 years old. I'm on my third batch now!

 

[BierMuncher]

This beer...the original recipe by BierMuncher...is probably the best homebrew I've
ever had anywhere and I'm 63 years old. I'm on my third batch now!

I appreciate that. Thanks.

 

[BLM]

I made this on a wednesday then into a keg by tuesday so six days then to keg wasnt clear but taste great had to power make it for my father in laws 60th birthday it was a hit with everyone I changed the recipe a little bit but not much
want to say thanks to BierMuncher

 

[chezzesteak]

little help here...i was going to look thru this post to see what people tasted before they carb/bottled it but then i reliazed it was 103 pages...

mine is very sweet. is that normal. will botteling/kegging ease up on this..

 

[chezzesteak]

finished very dry> hydro is at 1005

 

[lukem5]

little help here...i was going to look thru this post to see what people tasted before they carb/bottled it but then i reliazed it was 103 pages...

mine is very sweet. is that normal. will botteling/kegging ease up on this..

I noticed mine was rather sweet as well before I bottled, after I primed it and tasted it the sweetness seemed to lose its prominence, but was still there, in a good way. As a matter of fact i kept letting this go for about 2 1/2 weeks in secondary to get the sweetness down because I was afraid it wasnt done

Ok so mine ended up at 1.004 FG. carbed it up nice n good (2.5 volumes) which was a good choice imo for this style, maybe 2.0 would have been a better idea for most though.

Amarillo hops wasn't a good choice for this, I think it would have been better with the original cascades/other the original recipe called for.

Still a good beer, that first sip makes you think "wow that was good"

I let the temperatures get a little out of my parameters, and this may have given it an off taste as well, I am sure this could quite possibly be one of the best beers I have ever made, props to biermuncher on this one! (although I don't approve of your message telling me to keep to the recipe thats how we as brewers tend to "de-evolve")

WLP 029 gave it a great crisp refreshing finish on the palate, I suggest more people use 029 for this recipe, it takes a little longer but is so worth it.

Running this again for my next batch, I was wondering if maybe the master beermuncher could give me some advice on this, regarding hops, which should I use?

hallertau
EKG
saaz
fuggles



Or will I have to go to my homebrewjew shop and pay 4$/oz for more hops!???



(my condolences to jewish people, I just think its hilarious given the prices he charges)

finished very dry> hydro is at 1005

Same here, I went down to 1004.

I got something like 90% attenuation on my wlp029!!! this sounds really strange! Its supposed to go about 75%!!! what happened here? Anybody? I have a more detailed post regarding this that hasnt been answered yet one page back.

 

[Brutus Brewer]

Mine turned out great except for the skunkiness from not covering the Better Bottle and sunlight hitting it for 2 weeks.

 

[Dhack61]

Going to try this this weekend but dont have any Crystal Hops. All i have left is the Willamette. Looking for an opinion on adding 1/4 oz of coriander to last 15 min of boil to get citrus, fruity tang that crystal might impart. Any thoughts?

 

[BierMuncher]

Going to try this this weekend but dont have any Crystal Hops. All i have left is the Willamette. Looking for an opinion on adding 1/4 oz of coriander to last 15 min of boil to get citrus, fruity tang that crystal might impart. Any thoughts?

Willamette will make a fine substitution. Coriander is nice in certain recipes (I have a few), but the spirit of this beer doesn't warrant extraneous flavors.

 

[stevek767]

Just got done bottle carbonating and am getting ready to serve it this weekend in my fall beer sampling line up.

Tastes crisp and cleared up extremely well.

I used Liberty hops in mine and it came out great!





Hope to have some leftover for myself. May have to stash some away, just in case.

Thanks BM!!!!

 

[ftlstrings]

Made 5 gallons of this tonight. Had a 2 hour mash almost (sick kid duties called) but hit OG spot on. Used .75 oz victory hops to finish. Tasted pretty ok going into the fermentor.

Thanks for the recipe!

~M~

 

[makomachine]

I'm not a beer snob by any means, but trying to figure out if this beer is for me. I'm not into 'bland' and don't really care for BMC. That said, I enjoyed the SA summer offering and have enjoyed a Boston Lager on occasion as well. Is this going to be in the same category as those beers or is it more 'flavorless' by design? As a point of reference, I did the Pre-prohibition lager from BCS and found it pretty bland, with an off taste I attributed to the cluster hops that I used, which I didn't care for at all.

 

[LVBen]

I'm not a beer snob by any means, but trying to figure out if this beer is for me. I'm not into 'bland' and don't really care for BMC. That said, I enjoyed the SA summer offering and have enjoyed a Boston Lager on occasion as well. Is this going to be in the same category as those beers or is it more 'flavorless' by design? As a point of reference, I did the Pre-prohibition lager from BCS and found it pretty bland, with an off taste I attributed to the cluster hops that I used, which I didn't care for at all.

In the batch I made, it had a lighter malt flavor like what you would find in a BMC product with a slightly more noticeable hop profile, and a slight sake-like twist form the rice. I wouldn't call it bland, but it is definitely a beer that is aimed towards pleasing a large number of people.

I say that you should just go for it. It takes like $8 worth of ingredients (if you re-use yeast), and if you don't like it, then give it away to your friends and they will think you are the best brewer in the world.

 

[makomachine]

In the batch I made, it had a lighter malt flavor like what you would find in a BMC product with a slightly more noticeable hop profile, and a slight sake-like twist form the rice. I wouldn't call it bland, but it is definitely a beer that is aimed towards pleasing a large number of people.

I say that you should just go for it. It takes like $8 worth of ingredients (if you re-use yeast), and if you don't like it, then give it away to your friends and they will think you are the best brewer in the world.

Thanks for the input. Will likely do that very thing off of the yeast from the Haus Pale Ale that I'm brewing this weekend. Just wasn't sure how the flavor comes through on this as it seems everyone walks away with a different description! Sweet, corny, sake-like, etc - sounds like it comes down to process on what flavors are highlighted.

 

[cbdeacon]

lets see....post #155

 

[makomachine]

lets see....post #155

???

 

[hbhudy]

Just brewed this with slight alterations::
3#->2row
3#->Pilsn
2#->FlakeMaze
1#->FlakeRice
1oz.Tettang @45minutes 4.9AA
OG1042 and tasted great

 

[johnodon]

Football day...makes sense to me!

 

[dmbRedGetta]

Just brewed this for a 2nd time on 8/13. Finally cracked one today.

The first one I made was good, but it tasted a little off to me. That being said, it's the only beer I've made my wife has liked.

2nd time around, I used a water bath and I think that made all the difference. Instead of holding low-to-mid-70s, I was in the mid-60s range, and the beer just tastes cleaner. My wife approves again, and this time I can drink it without making any weird faces... It just tastes like a nice, clean, light ale, with more flavor than what BMC offers.

Thanks for the recipe BierMuncher!

 

[FermentedTed]

First off, thank you for this recipe BM... Brewed this twice now. Nice simple recipe makes for a laid back brew day and the keg gets drained in short order. Currently using this recipe as the poster child to convince the SWMBO that I need to upgrade my equipment for 10-gallon batches. :rockin:

I was curious if anyone has tried racking this over any kind of fresh fruit? My local brewpub makes a Raspberry Cream Ale that is very good, and I was wondering if this Cream Ale recipe would be a good base beer to try it out on. Thanks!

 

[Mudflap]

yep, in my experiences, cream ales are great bases to beers you're trying to flavor since they are so mild and somewhat neutral. Your "flavoring" tends to shine instead of getting swallowed up by the beer. I used a very similar base for my smoked jalapeno ale and it turned out wonderful! entering it in some regional comps this fall. The raspberry cream sound delicious, definitely a panty dropper!lol

 

[ozzy1038]

Looks like I'll have to give this one a go. The majority of the people I know like piss water so this should be a good alternative for them. Plus it would be a good refreshing beer to have on those thirsty days.

 

[rack04]

I have all these ingredients on hand:

BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Cream of Three Crops
Brewer:
Asst Brewer: 
Style: Cream Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (0.0) 

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 6.87 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.99 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.25 gal   
Bottling Volume: 4.75 gal
Estimated OG: 1.041 SG
Estimated Color: 2.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 14.4 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 76.7 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt                   Name                                     Type          #        %/IBU         
6 lbs                 Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)           Grain         1        70.6 %        
2 lbs                 Corn, Flaked (1.3 SRM)                   Grain         2        23.5 %        
8.0 oz                Rice, Minute Rice (1.0 SRM)              Grain         3        5.9 %         
0.28 oz               Magnum [13.60 %] - Boil 60.0 min         Hop           4        14.4 IBUs     
0.50 tsp              Yeast Nutrient (Boil 10.0 mins)          Other         6        -             
1.00 Items            Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins)        Fining        5        -             
1.0 pkg               Nottingham (Danstar #-) [23.66 ml]       Yeast         7        -             

Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, Batch Sparge, Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 8 lbs 8.0 oz
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Name              Description                             Step Temperature    Step Time     
Mash In           Add 10.63 qt of water at 165.4 F        152.0 F             60 min        
Mash Out          Add 6.76 qt of water at 210.0 F         168.0 F             10 min        

Sparge: Drain mash tun, Batch sparge with 2 steps (1.86gal, 1.86gal) of 168.0 F water
Notes:
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