Cream Ale Cream of Three Crops (Cream Ale)

[MidnightShift]

I just put 5 gallons of this in bottles. OG was a little high - 1.052 and the FG finished at 1.010. I did add some extra grain when mashing but now I am getting better efficiency with my BIAB set up. I upped the hops just a little and the FG sample tasted great. This should be a great drinking brew for freinds and family come memorial weekend. Looking foreward to it.

 

[Dgonza9]

I just realized that the 1oz of New Zealand Hallertau I used has a much higher alpha acid rating than plain old Hallertau. Sample tasted good going into fermenter, but this might come out a little more hopped than planned. LOL. Most of my good brews are happy accidents.

 

[biggc1]

I got s-04 instead of s-05 by mistake. Ok to use?

 

[bovineblitz]

I got s-04 instead of s-05 by mistake. Ok to use?

It's not completely ideal but if you can keep your temps low enough it should ferment quite clean... otherwise you'll get some fruity esters. I'd shoot for about 60 to be sure.

 

[BierMuncher]

It's not completely ideal but if you can keep your temps low enough it should ferment quite clean... otherwise you'll get some fruity esters. I'd shoot for about 60 to be sure.

Also let your mash rest for 75-90 minutes. That longer rest time will get you higher attenuation and get that beer to dry out nicely. I routinely use '04 with great results.

 

[biggc1]

Also let your mash rest for 75-90 minutes. That longer rest time will get you higher attenuation and get that beer to dry out nicely. I routinely use '04 with great results.

Sounds good thanks. I'm giving it a go Thursday.

 

[biggc1]

For a ten gallon batch would you batch sparge in a couple steps or all at once?

 

[Wakadaka]

just brewed this up today. I used .5oz willamette, and .5 oz hallerau.

5 gallon batch.

I did my first AG via Deathbrewers method. started my mash way too high, but after about 20 minutes I got it to 152 and left it there. By the end of the 90 minutes it was about 150, so hopefully the first 20 minutes didn't kill everything.

Pitched washed us05, but it was my first attempt at washing, so hopefully it will ferment.

 

[elproducto]

Anyone use anything other than Crystal/Hallertauer for the last addition? I don't have either.

 

[edmanster]

I've used liberty.. It's a good substitute!!

 

[elproducto]

Haha, don't have that either.
I'll just use Cascade probably.

 

[Wakadaka]

The original recipe only has a 60 minute addition. AFAIK the bittering hop flavor won't come through much, so the right amount of cascade would work fine.

 

[rack04]

I've got 0.50 oz of Cascade and 0.50 oz of Centennial pellet hops in the freezer and I'm wondering if I can use these in this recipe. I was thinking about:

0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (60 min) 9.7 IBU
0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (15 min) 8.7 IBU

 

[BullFrog]

I brewed this up for a friend a few days ago. If possible, he could use it in two weeks. This would essentially be 18 days grain to glass. If I did this, do you think I should keep it on the primary for 14 days and then age for 4 days... or... 10 days on primary and 8 days aging before he serves it?

 

[BierMuncher]

I brewed this up for a friend a few days ago. If possible, he could use it in two weeks. This would essentially be 18 days grain to glass. If I did this, do you think I should keep it on the primary for 14 days and then age for 4 days... or... 10 days on primary and 8 days aging before he serves it?

I'd say if you're shortening the whole process, keep the beer on the yeast cake for two weeks. Rack it to a keg with gelatin and chill it. 30psi for 30 hours and taste test for carbonation. Should be pretty clear and clean tasting by then.

 

[Dgonza9]

Quick question. Mine's about done. It's at 1.06 after a week. Should I wait two weeks or just wait until it hits FG to keg? Or just keg now?

Thanks.

 

[BullFrog]

I'd say if you're shortening the whole process, keep the beer on the yeast cake for two weeks. Rack it to a keg with gelatin and chill it. 30psi for 30 hours and taste test for carbonation. Should be pretty clear and clean tasting by then.

Excellent - thank you.

 

[imrook]

While taking a gravity reading I found that things were still pretty cloudy, so decided to rack to a secondary to try to help clear the beer up. Gravity is at 1.008 and it tastes fine, but it smells like a fart. Not too powerful, but it's not very appealing. Since I'm planning on sharing this brew with friends over Memorial Day weekend, I dry hopped with 3/4 oz Willamette to give it a little hop boquet. I know I'm probably just freaking out and need to RDWHAHB, but I'm wondering if anyone else has had a similar experience.

 

[charliec]

I'm Brewing this one up now. Noted the color out of the mash tun was like B.M.C., nice and golden and had great flavor to boot! my gravity into the boiler was 1.042 we'll see what happens after the boil.When I went to the LHBS I got the flaked rice even though I had purchased the minute rice maybe I'll use the minute rice next time.
Thanks for this one BierMuncher, SWMBO's going to love it!

In the Fermentor now, as it turns out this is the best efficiency I have goten to date. Eff. into boiler came in at 89.73%, Eff. into fermentor came in at 74.96%
Thanks again!

 

[ennis2000000000]

How long is every one letting this age out for?

 

[Wakadaka]

How long is every one letting this age out for?

BM says 14 days at 68 in primary then 10 days in keg.

I am planning on doing about 2-4 weeks in primary, basically just whenever I get the time (and bottles) and then the basic 3 weeks for carbonation.

I think earlier in the thread people were talking about having to cold condition it for a while to get rid of a corn flavor, but I don't remember what post or page that was on.

Even without a flavor to cold condition out I think this beer could benefit from a long time in the cold to help get it crystal clear, and gain some more crispness

 

[hbhudy]

How about a Cream Of Saison??
I made this recipe once before and it was great.
I decided to use this as a base for a Saison (with minor mods.)
6.5# 2-row
1.5# Wheat Malt
1.0# Flake Maze
1.0# Flake Rice
0.5# Flake Rye

Lemon Zest & Grains of Paradise
WYeast 3711
Mash #151 for 75 minutes and = Excellent

 

[toolboxdiver]

How about a Cream Of Saison??
I made this recipe once before and it was great.
I decided to use this as a base for a Saison (with minor mods.)
6.5# 2-row
1.5# Wheat Malt
1.0# Flake Maze
1.0# Flake Rice
0.5# Flake Rye

Lemon Zest & Grains of Paradise
WYeast 3711
Mash #151 for 75 minutes and = Excellent

sounds great how much lemon zest and grains of paradise did you use

 

[hbhudy]

I used a pack of the lemon peel from the LHBS and a pack of the grains of paradise.
I also zested 2 lemons as well right at flameout.
I also forgot to put in that I added 0.8oz of candy sugar.

Tastes Great and looking forward for carbonation. Carb'd with 5.3oz of corn sugar.

 

[Dgonza9]

I'm going to keg 5 gallons as is and dry hop the other five with new Zealand hallertauer hops. Is already tasting bmc-ish. Gonna be great for the golf course. Thanks Biermucncher.

 

[noggins]

This is probably a dumb question, but what makes this a "cream" ale?

My basic search told me that a cream ale is either a top-fermented Kölsch or an ale that is pressurized with nitrogen. Is it some combination of the ingredients or the yeast?

 

[edmanster]

This is probably a dumb question, but what makes this a "cream" ale?

My basic search told me that a cream ale is either a top-fermented Kölsch or an ale that is pressurized with nitrogen. Is it some combination of the ingredients or the yeast?

the mouth feel that the corn adds is what makes this a cream ale!!!

 

[noggins]

Is there a good guide on mouth feel: styles and ingredients used to attain them? the wiki on the topic is pretty lame... this was the best I could find.

 

[edmanster]

Is there a good guide on mouth feel: styles and ingredients used to attain them? the wiki on the topic is pretty lame... this was the best I could find.

this is from BYO
http://www.byo.com/stories/article/indices/12-body/1709-mouthfeel-in-beer
flavor wheel
http://www.beerflavorwheel.com/

 

[elproducto]

Haha, I brewed Jamil's version of a Cream ALe, but used the hop schedule in this recipe. Ended up finishing way lower than I thought 1.008. Now I have a 5.6% Cream Ale.. oops.