Crazy question!!!!

[Rbeckett]

A freind of mine asked me what I was building, so I proudly explained that I was attempting to build a three tier brew sculpture. He remarked that it looked nice and asked about the process. I responded in my best fatherly wisdom sort of way and explained the whole process to him. He was duly impressed to say the least. Then he pops the million dollar question....... "Can't you just take the fresh wort and put it in a keg and just force carb it?" You have all the stuff to do that......I thought about his question at great length and didn't have a valid answer. So I have turned to the esteemed membership to pose the question and see what the general consensus of opinion is. My thought is just make small session beers and call it good, but he is a non drinker (reformed) and still loves the taste of brew but doesnt like his allergy to alky. Claims he keeps breaking out in handcuffs when he drinks. Any thoughts?
Thanks in advance....
Bob

 

[Revvy]

Go to your nearest big box grocery store and usually on the bottom shelve of the Mexican Foods section you'll find bottles of Malta Goya,

Get one for him, and one for yourself, chill them down, also pick up a couple nice porters. Have a taste test.

Maltagoya is pretty much what a carbonated, unfermented porter tastes like.

Comparring it to a finished and fermented porter, you should know why we don't do typically do it.

 

[Special Hops]

Have you ever taste wort? It's not very good.

 

[zeg]

Have you ever taste wort? It's not very good.

I disagree wholeheartedly, particularly for partial boils before dilution.

Wouldn't want to drink 12 ounces of it, but I think it tastes pretty good.

 

[Runyanka]

I disagree wholeheartedly, particularly for partial boils before dilution.

Wouldn't want to drink 12 ounces of it, but I think it tastes pretty good.

Try taking a sip of a 60+ IBU IPA wort, then try tasting a fully carbed and conditioned beer. Bet you wont taste the beer as well as you usually do. That's because the wort is basically sugar water that is extra bitter, killing your taste buds. Just by himto non alcoholic beer.

 

[SGFBeerBuzz]

You could always brew the beer, then boil it long enough to evaporate the alcohol out. I've never done it, but it seems like it'd work to me.

Anyone Ever tried this?

 

[william_shakes_beer]

soooo Are you trying to make no alcohol beer?

 

[zeg]

Try taking a sip of a 60+ IBU IPA wort, then try tasting a fully carbed and conditioned beer. Bet you wont taste the beer as well as you usually do. That's because the wort is basically sugar water that is extra bitter, killing your taste buds. Just by himto non alcoholic beer.

Why would I want to do that?

There are plenty of things that taste good but will temporarily ruin your palate for beer. It doesn't have any bearing on whether they're pleasant in and of themselves.

 

[zeg]

You could always brew the beer, then boil it long enough to evaporate the alcohol out. I've never done it, but it seems like it'd work to me.

Anyone Ever tried this?

Haven't tried, but you're going to have to boil for quite a while. I suspect it's going to have deleterious effects.

http://www.ochef.com/165.htm

(sorry for the double post)

 

[Rbeckett]

soooo Are you trying to make no alcohol beer?

Not really, I was wondering if I could make a batch for him to sip. Since I became disabled I have developed many new associations and he is one I would like to give a special gift to for helping me get the hang of life in a wheelchair with no kidneys. Just trying to approach the question he posed logically and take appropriate action from there. I still think a 1 or 2% brew would be OK for his "alergy" issues and allow the taste of a real brew to remain undamaged by reheating. Thanks to everyone who has responded so far.
Bob

 

[WhiteEagle1]

If you kegged it without fermenting it out first you'd have a keg of "Bug Juice"......malty, hopped, sugar water.

 

[william_shakes_beer]

Not really, I was wondering if I could make a batch for him to sip. Since I became disabled I have developed many new associations and he is one I would like to give a special gift to for helping me get the hang of life in a wheelchair with no kidneys. Just trying to approach the question he posed logically and take appropriate action from there. I still think a 1 or 2% brew would be OK for his "alergy" issues and allow the taste of a real brew to remain undamaged by reheating. Thanks to everyone who has responded so far.
Bob

ok, I see where you want to be now. If you're looking for a 1% or 2% beer, you need to start with a low gravity OG. The malt, alcohol and hops will still be there, and it'll still be beer. Just play with beersmith or Mr Malty for a SG-OG of 0.015. Commercial breweries do it by adding water. Perhaps if you do a 5 gallon boil and then top off with 5 gallons? (or cut grain bill and extracts in half, boil 2.5 gallons the top off to 5 gallons)

 

[petey_c]

Haven't tried, but you're going to have to boil for quite a while. I suspect it's going to have deleterious effects.

Zeg, Big up on "deleterious". I thought I was the only one who used that word... Rbeckett, Sorry about your recent (?) disability and about the possibly stupid question, but without your kidneys, can you drink at all?

 

[Genjin]

You could brew a Belgian Tafelbier. 2% alcohol and apparently tasty. You could probably even drop the OG to 1.020 for even lower alcohol. This is the Zymurgy recipe:

Original Recipe below:
Note 1 gallon of first runnings are to be caramelized/boiled for 1 hour.

For 5.5 gallons:
3.75 lb Belgian Pilsner Malt
1.0 lb Caravienne Malt
0.25 lb Aromatic Malt
0.5 oz Saaz 3.2% (60 min)
1.0 tsp freshly cracked black pepper (5 min)
Wyeast 1214 Belgian Ale

OG = 1.025
IBU = 7.2
SRM = 6.0

 

[Draken]

Not really, I was wondering if I could make a batch for him to sip. Since I became disabled I have developed many new associations and he is one I would like to give a special gift to for helping me get the hang of life in a wheelchair with no kidneys. Just trying to approach the question he posed logically and take appropriate action from there. I still think a 1 or 2% brew would be OK for his "alergy" issues and allow the taste of a real brew to remain undamaged by reheating. Thanks to everyone who has responded so far.
Bob

No. Absolutely not, if he is a recovering alcoholic the only thing you should do is make him a nice soda/pop and carb it with your keg. No alcohol period.

 

[Rbeckett]

Zeg, Big up on "deleterious". I thought I was the only one who used that word... Rbeckett, Sorry about your recent (?) disability and about the possibly stupid question, but without your kidneys, can you drink at all?

I am limited to 1.5 liters of fluid intake a day and I have to be extremely carefull of how much phosphor and potassium I get. I can eat and drink just about everything except bannannas. And that seems to be the only food I crave since all this happened. Yeah, no kidneys is a little different but I get flushed 3 times a week at the dialysis clinic and sometimes I gain a little excess water weight, but it's all good so far. Thats one of the reasons I am exploring all grain. I can custom tailor a really tasty brew that has good hop/malt ballance with various over and under tones and really enjoy the "home made" flavor and the satisfaction of brewing it myself. Thats also part of the reason I have gone crazy building my sculpture. I keep adding neat stuff because it gives me an opportunity to experimen with alll the different technologies and learn in real time how to solve some of the engineering issues associated with intergrating multiple electric, electronic and pneudraulic systems. If I brew a beer or three and do the rest of the engineering I am more than happy. Thats also why I grow hops and farm yeast, to learn all about plant biology and sterile technique. So I have approached home brewing as an engineering/bio/tecnology intergration learning lab and experiment. I have done all the metal work and sheeting on my sculpture and have a bunch of goodies to install along the way. New pics are coming in my "lost my mind" thread in a day or two.
Sorry for the long book.
Bob