othellomcbane
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Review of Apollo is incomplete. Resin is accurate. But actually, I don't get spice, or that much citrus. I do however get a fresh bag of dank marijuana upon smelling it.
Centennial is way fruitier than Cascade. Sort of a potent stone fruit/citrus fruit combo.
Columbus has some piney earth, resin, dankness.
Horizon is underrated and actually more fragrant than most hops. Similar to Amarillo.
Amarillo is not tropical.
You're missing Northern Brewer US and GR. The US version is a little minty.
Simcoe is not oniony at all. I hear that complaint about Summit though I don't experience it in my brewing.
Sorachi Ace is pure lemongrass and lemon pine sole floor cleaner. I don't know where you got cream or buttery.
Missed the cat pee descriptor in some of these hops, like Nelson.
Chinook is not cloying in large doses, but Citra is.
Good luck with your list. I've brewed with all of these hops in IPAs many, many times.
Thanks, that's some great feedback. You sort of got me thinking... as much as I wish I had had the time to do so, I have only brewed single-hop beers with a few of these varieties. It will be years, maybe decades, before I could possibly get intensive first-hand experience with all of them. (Seeking out breweries' single-hop beers helps, but they aren't all that common or easy to find.) So ultimately, it comes down to trusting what other people have reported online... whether on a forum, a homebrew supply store, or someone's blog.
My descriptions are compiled from various sources, four or five different sources whenever possible. I took the characteristics I saw pop up a few different time, and ruled out anything that sounded contradictory or off. That's still not as good as first-hand experience though I have a feeling that the same descriptions for many of these hops, particularly the older ones, have just been repeated from source to source over the years, and many of the guides online are just copy / pasted from other guides. Not that I claim mine is any more accurate, but I avoided ever directly copy/pasting.
Most of your suggestions ring true to me, and I'll definitely be tweaking the list based on your suggestions. Thanks again for the feedback. I'm hoping to eventually brew single-hop beers with all the newish or unique sounding varieties. Right now I'm working on a Nelson Sauvin single hop pale ale.
That is a cool list, thanks for the work you put into it!
Does anyone know how to make Apps? There was one started for hop varieties but it looks like it was abandoned and wasn't a very useful list to begin with. If this info was put in a smartphone app, I would actually pay a buck or two to have all of this at my fingertips while I am hop shopping or recipe building in my iPhone.
If the components were all categorized in a spreadsheet then the app could be setup so one could do flavor searches to find the variety for example. Wouldn't that be cool to go into an app and search for "citrus" and then a list of hop varieties show up?
Thanks! That's a great idea, and I really wish I had any sort of coding knowledgeable. I would have no idea where to even begin, but hopefully someone out there will take up the challenge soon.