Chilling methods/alternatives?

[H-ost]

Can no-chill increase dms?

This was a concern and has been debated. I'm not sure what the actual conclusion was but I can say, from my experience, I do not notice DMS flavors.

 

[djt17]

I did my first no-chill in a corny keg this weekend. It sure was nice not dragging the garden hose out to the garage & stirring my wort for 40 min. I placed the corny on my basement floor, the next morning the wort was 64°, racked to my carboy & pitched.

 

[H-ost]

I guess it is worth mentioning that people no-chill in their kettles by placing a star-san soaked towel over the top and putting the lid on. You can try it this way and if you don't have a ball valve on your Boil Kettle or a metal siphon this is the way you will probably want to try it.

 

[Jayhem]

With summertime temps though you don't have much of a choice but to incorparate ice in some way.

Not if you have a 380' well in a slab of granite and install a faucet 3' away from your well head!

I too am interested in less water waste. Right now I collect the water in 40 gal trash cans and use the hottest water to do a load or 2 of laundry, save the rest to water plants.

 

[Sacdan]

I agree with the idea of getting a Plate Chiller. Not only do you save water, you save time. I can get a 10-12 gallon bacth to pitching temp in 3-4 minutes. It cools as fast as I can pump it. On hot days, I use my IC as an pre-chiller. I froze a 2L bottle filled with water and put it, along with whatever ice is in the ice-maker, in with the IC in a keg with the top cut off. I run the water from my sink, through the IC in ice water, to the Plate Chiller. The water coming out of the Plate Chiller goes into my Mash Tun to clean up with. I have done a 12 gallon batch in less than 3 hours from milling to fermenting.

 

[erockomania]

I agree with the idea of getting a Plate Chiller. Not only do you save water, you save time. I can get a 10-12 gallon bacth to pitching temp in 3-4 minutes. It cools as fast as I can pump it. On hot days, I use my IC as an pre-chiller. I froze a 2L bottle filled with water and put it, along with whatever ice is in the ice-maker, in with the IC in a keg with the top cut off. I run the water from my sink, through the IC in ice water, to the Plate Chiller. The water coming out of the Plate Chiller goes into my Mash Tun to clean up with. I have done a 12 gallon batch in less than 3 hours from milling to fermenting.

What size plate chiller?

 

[Sacdan]

I bought the 30 plate 2.9"x12". One of the best investments I've made in brewing.

 

[tnsen]

getting back to sentfromspains question....that is exactly the idea I have been thinking about ..as a newbie looking into jumping allgrain....but, wich would be better as a flow thru chiller, stainless, or copper tubing ?...and what fitting is available to connect to the valve on the brew pot...I was thinking bout making a mash tun with the cube cooler...then removing the manifold in the bottom....rinse , fill with ice and water....then connect the flow thru chiller from the brew pot...thru the ice bath then out the outlet in the tun/ now wart chiller bath ,but I cant find the fittings that will do this...any ideas....Tom

 

[sentfromspain]

How about a funnel instead of a fitting? Should work just as effectively.

And as for the material, stainless or copper.... if you want to add salt to the ice water so it gets colder, then I would suggest stainless steel because the salt will corrode the copper. If you don't plan on using salt, then use copper because it is more effective at the whole heat transfer thing.

 

[jtakacs]

I did my first no-chill in a corny keg this weekend. It sure was nice not dragging the garden hose out to the garage & stirring my wort for 40 min. I placed the corny on my basement floor, the next morning the wort was 64°, racked to my carboy & pitched.

that's similar to what i do - i boil, cap, clamp (maintaining the vacuum) and store at ambient for about 18 hours. strain, aerate, pitch and have had zero problems.

i do have one high DMS brew, but that's a short boil berliner w/ 50% pilsner but i blame the lack of boil.

 

[rifraf]

How about a funnel instead of a fitting? Should work just as effectively.

And as for the material, stainless or copper.... if you want to add salt to the ice water so it gets colder, then I would suggest stainless steel because the salt will corrode the copper. If you don't plan on using salt, then use copper because it is more effective at the whole heat transfer thing.

Salt water can do nasty things to stainless if you aren't careful.