American Pale Ale Cascades / Orange Pale Ale

[hardysf]

Any idea why when I plug this into Beersmith I get 17.5 ibu?

I adjusted the recipe to fwh 1.75 oz of 6.8% cascade, and then .75 oz at the three boil stages to give me 30.1 IBU all of 6.8%

On edit:
looks like i screwed up by not changing the equipment to all grain. Oh well, going to be super bitter now 54 ibu, nothing too crazy though.

 

[Kirkwooder]

I finally got around to brewing this today. Hit all my numbers spot on and was done and cleaned up in under 5 hours from start to finish. Can't wait to pop the top on one of these.

 

[zamo27]

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I followed the recipe and hit all the right figures, racked off into secondary and dry hopped,, that's the hops In a muslin cloth floating .
today bottling day and I opened the bucket and found this?!
Is it mould ?
Have I lost this one?

 

[Kirkwooder]

Rack it from under the stuff that is floating very carefully with out disturbing the floating stuff. Taste it and see what you think. I bet it's fine.

 

[mpghm]

I'm trying this with half amarillo and reduced orange. Airlock smells amazing

Oh and I try to buy local so I used Gambrius ESB instead of MO

Two weeks in the bottle and it's super tasty.

 

[hardysf]

Mine is two weeks in the bottle also. Pretty good brew. Maybe not bitter enough for me, and I even screwed up and made it more bitter - see above.

I get some super sweet honey flavor from this beer too. Maybe too much Crystal 10. I didn't add coriander though, so I am losing some bitterness from that too.

Good base recipe though! Thanks for posting.

 

[GreyLark]

I brewed this one a few weeks ago. I found it with Beer Smith, but I used the Wyeast Farmhouse blend. I kegged it yesterday and it tastes like bitter bubble gum... I don't know what happened with this one. Fermentation temps were about 68-70F

9 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 1 81.8 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 2 9.1 %
1 lbs Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 3 9.1 %
1.00 oz Cascade [5.90 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 4 24.3 IBUs
4.00 Items Orange Peel - fresh (Boil 10.0 mins) Flavor 5 -
1.00 oz Cascade [5.90 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 6 8.0 IBUs
0.83 oz Coriander Seed (Boil 10.0 mins) Spice 7 -
1.00 oz Cascade [5.90 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 8 4.4 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [5.90 %] - Boil 1.0 min Hop 9 1.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg American Farmhouse Blend (White Labs #WLP670) [50.28 ml] Yeast 10 -
2.00 oz Cascade [5.90 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 11 0.0 IBUs

 

[Kirkwooder]

I had the first of my C/O last night after just 2 weeks in the bottle. Mine is more hopy than I would have liked. The 2 oz. of dry hop hit like a ton of citrus, and I don't know if it's the coriander,orange peel, or the hops, but there is an odd bitterness that doesn't seem to blend well. At least not yet. It will likely be much better in another couple weeks, but I will scale the hops back if I brew it again.

 

[hardysf]

You may want to check the potency of your hops. When I bought the Cascades Hops from my home brew store they were 6.8% AA. The original recipe calls for 5.5%. You would have had to decrease the amount of the hops you used to bitter.

 

[Kirkwooder]

You may want to check the potency of your hops. When I bought the Cascades Hops from my home brew store they were 6.8% AA. The original recipe calls for 5.5%. You would have had to decrease the amount of the hops you used to bitter.

If I remember right the bittering addition hops were 5.2% and I used my own home grown for the rest, so I have no idea what their AA rate is.

 

[Shnick]

I dropped dry hops to 1 oz and found it much more tolerable. I'm making a 3rd batch of this soon. Im trying 3 oz of orange peel and also trying Amarillo in the middle instead of straight cascade.

This has become my house pale ale.

 

[GreyLark]

I brewed this one a few weeks ago. I found it with Beer Smith, but I used the Wyeast Farmhouse blend. I kegged it yesterday and it tastes like bitter bubble gum... I don't know what happened with this one. Fermentation temps were about 68-70F

9 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 1 81.8 %
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 2 9.1 %
1 lbs Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 3 9.1 %
1.00 oz Cascade [5.90 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 4 24.3 IBUs
4.00 Items Orange Peel - fresh (Boil 10.0 mins) Flavor 5 -
1.00 oz Cascade [5.90 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 6 8.0 IBUs
0.83 oz Coriander Seed (Boil 10.0 mins) Spice 7 -
1.00 oz Cascade [5.90 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 8 4.4 IBUs
1.00 oz Cascade [5.90 %] - Boil 1.0 min Hop 9 1.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg American Farmhouse Blend (White Labs #WLP670) [50.28 ml] Yeast 10 -
2.00 oz Cascade [5.90 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 11 0.0 IBUs

Ahh well, probably a poor yeast choice.

 

[Shenanigans]

This sounds like a great brew but to use up 6 oz of one hop on a PA is a bit too much for me. That would be nearly all of my Cascades gone when I have about 20 other hops that I could support them with. I haven't read all posts but can anyone report on a hop combination that turned out as good as the original?

I have Citra, summit, Willamette, Amarillo, falconer's slight, nugget, simceo, and lots of other hops but was for some reason thinking that Super Styrian would fit in there somehow. Should be similar to Northern Brewer - do you think that would work with the orange and coriander, and cascade of course?

 

[TomBomb]

This sounds like a great brew but to use up 6 oz of one hop on a PA is a bit too much for me. That would be nearly all of my Cascades gone when I have about 20 other hops that I could support them with. I haven't read all posts but can anyone report on a hop combination that turned out as good as the original?

I have Citra, summit, Willamette, Amarillo, falconer's slight, nugget, simceo, and lots of other hops but was for some reason thinking that Super Styrian would fit in there somehow. Should be similar to Northern Brewer - do you think that would work with the orange and coriander, and cascade of course?

I made a version of this with citra and cascade and it was awesome! Stick with a couple different hop types and stay away from the resiney hops like simcoe. With a pale, keep it simple!

 

[Shenanigans]

I made a version of this with citra and cascade and it was awesome! Stick with a couple different hop types and stay away from the resiney hops like simcoe. With a pale, keep it simple!

Thanks for the reply.

I might just give that a go - a 50/50 Citra/Cascade combination.
I'll probably use Columbus for the 60 min addition.
Might take a few months but I'll report back when done

 

[sean99]

I was thinking of brewing this recipe but adding some ahtanum hops late in the boil. I heard they have an orange flavor/aroma. (I've never used them before) Does this sound like a good idea?

 

[MTinOR]

I brewed this recipe this morning. Went well since this is my 6th all grain batch I've done. Getting my system pretty dialed in. Smelled incredible. Can't wait till this is fermented, bottled, and ready to enjoy!


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[Shenanigans]

So I'm going to get around to brewing this quicker than expected.
I have 5 or 6 hours spare time this weekend

So it will be a 5 gallon BIAB.
Like I said above I'll bitter with Columbus and do 50/50 Cascade/Citra but will only do 1.5 Oz for the dry hop.

Only thing I'm not sure of is what type of orange to use.
I have dried bitter orange (curacao) left over from a Wit would that be OK instead of the sweet orange or am I better to use the peel of a few fresh organic oranges?

 

[johns]

So I have made this recipe and it turned out awesome. Now I want to repeat the recipe again, and my question has to do with the orange zest.

I went to the local HBS and bought a couple ounces, but I noticed that it came with pith on the other side. If I wanted to make my own zest how much would it take. Should I still use 2 ounces or maybe use less or more.

 

[atea8keys]

SUPERB! Thanks! I'm making more of this one.

 

[mpghm]

3rd batch disappeared quickly. 4th batch fermenting now. 5g partial mash since I can only do 3g all grain, and that's just not enough!

 

[mpghm]

Not really related to this beer, but I'm looking for a simple recipe to pitch on top of the s-04 yeast cake once I bottle the Cascade/Orange.

Summer is coming up, could use something light and refreshing.

Any suggestions?

 

[Shnick]

So I have made this recipe and it turned out awesome. Now I want to repeat the recipe again, and my question has to do with the orange zest.

I went to the local HBS and bought a couple ounces, but I noticed that it came with pith on the other side. If I wanted to make my own zest how much would it take. Should I still use 2 ounces or maybe use less or more.

Any zest you get commercially will be fine, there's not enough white stuff to be concerned with. I use 2 oz at 15 minutes and gives plenty of zing. As far as how much, I think 3/4 oz per orange would be about right. Think of the moisture in a fresh orange though, it'll weigh more.
I've also tried (3rd batch) 1 oz Whole leaf cascade at 90 and 1 oz Amarillo hops at 15 to see what happens. First 7 days at 75degrees and then 7 days in my tornado shelter which hangs around 63 degrees to clean up the odd stuff.
Thinking of splitting this batch and adding Grapefruit peel to one of the secondaries. This recipe, to me tastes just like Ballast Point Sculpin.
Kid you not. Enjoy!

 

[Shenanigans]

Finally brewed this on Saturday. Pitched the yeast and then saw I totally forgot to add the orange and coriander. Was late so the next day I boiled them in a hop bag for 10 mins on the stove in about 250ml water. The S04 was already going crazy bur letting the juice cool for about an hour and pouring it on top of the krausen didn't seem to slow anything down. :rockin:

I go on holidays in two weeks for a few weeks. So I'll just let this ferment for 4 weeks and then do a 1 week dry hop with 1oz each of cascade and citra. Hopefully 5 weeks in primary wont do it any harm

 

[soulsuit]

I brewed this on Saturday -- in honor of national homebrew day. It's my second all-grain batch and everything went extremely smoothly. I did a variation of hop additions but everything else the same. Centennial at FWH, Cascade 10 min, Amarillo and Citra at flameout. Then I'll be dry hopping with Amarillo/Citra. Yeast are going nuts and my ferm chamber smells like straight citrus. :rockin:

 

[Shenanigans]

Finally brewed this on Saturday. Pitched the yeast and then saw I totally forgot to add the orange and coriander. Was late so the next day I boiled them in a hop bag for 10 mins on the stove in about 250ml water. The S04 was already going crazy bur letting the juice cool for about an hour and pouring it on top of the krausen didn't seem to slow anything down. :rockin:

I go on holidays in two weeks for a few weeks. So I'll just let this ferment for 4 weeks and then do a 1 week dry hop with 1oz each of cascade and citra. Hopefully 5 weeks in primary wont do it any harm

So back from holidays now.
The beer is in the fermenter for 4 weeks and I will add the dry hops tonight.
I followed the original recipe except for adding the Orange and Coriander later and subbing in about 40% of the Cascades with Citra. I hit the OG numbers perfectly but it's finishing at 1.009 instead of 1.013. Hopefully it won't turn out too dry but should still be great for a summer beer.
Will report back in about 2 weeks.

 

[Terrapin]

I've been drooling over this recipe for a while now and today is the day. ingredients are all layed out, Beer Smith is cued up and all my conversions for a 3 gallon batch are complete. it was nice to fine tune my ingredients. my cascades are whole cone and 7.7 AA and 8 AA for FWH. can't wait to see how this turns out!
Thanks Blacklab! this is only my second whole grain recipe, the noob is on a new adventure ...

 

[strangebrew14]

Enjoy!! This is a great recipe and funny enough was my second all grain batch too..next week's kettle sour will be my 100 gal mark greatest hobby eeevvveeerrr!!

 

[Terrapin]

Update: I added 8oz of orange honey thinking I'd bump the abv ... Blew the blow off straight off the top of the fermenter! (A small hop cone plugged the tube too, thought I was thorough straining the hops ... )
this is fermenting in my basement (temps are perfect, mid 60f) with an unfinished dirt floor, the towel I had wrapped around the fermenter saved most of the mess and my blow off jug has 1/2 gallon of added "beer". Sooo the question is: should I worry about contamination? I don't know if something wild and unwelcome has visited my brew.

 

[Terrapin]

This turned out superb! Well love by all, Mom gives it double thumbs up.
Thank you blacklab