Can you Brew It recipe for Stone Arrogant Bastard

[LVBen]

Oh, and I didn't measure the temperature with a thermometer, but I could tell that it was room temperature from touching the glass. I'm quite certain it was somewhere near 70 degrees.

 

[JimTheHick]

I did the 90% 2 row 10% spec B, BIAB. Mash 148, 90' , 1 tsp gypsum. OG 1.069.

My FG is steady at 1.009. I pitched on a 1.040 beer cake of 001. Looking at my notes I did put in 0.5 lbs of sucrose, so that probably explains why I'm a bit low in FG. I was worried about attenuating dry enough.

Still in primary, tastes damn good. Arrogant? My beer memory thinks they might end up close. I'm more of a horseshoe/hand grenade brewer at this point.

 

[bigbeergeek]

Oh, and I didn't measure the temperature with a thermometer, but I could tell that it was room temperature from touching the glass. I'm quite certain it was somewhere near 70 degrees.

That would add another point to your gravity reading. I refuse to believe AB has a FG of 1.020... it's not nearly that sweet. My clone had a FG of 1.013 and it was spot on in sweetness and mouthfeel.

 

[LVBen]

That would add another point to your gravity reading. I refuse to believe AB has a FG of 1.020... it's not nearly that sweet. My clone had a FG of 1.013 and it was spot on in sweetness and mouthfeel.

I think everyone who can get AB should go measure some AB and report back here with the findings. If we can get more people to measure it, then we'll have more statistically accurate results.

 

[JimTheHick]

I think everyone who can get AB should go measure some AB and report back here with the findings. If we can get more people to measure it, then we'll have more statistically accurate results.

Yes. And since I can't get any would you send me a six pack of bombers . For science of course.

 

[Reidman]

I think everyone who can get AB should go measure some AB and report back here with the findings. If we can get more people to measure it, then we'll have more statistically accurate results.

Local grocery store always has bombers of this. I actually ha a bottle last week but was too lazy to take a reading. Maybe this weekend I'll pick some up and report back....

I agree though this beer doesn't offer the residual sweetness that would accompany an FG that high but maybe the hops mask it well or something.

It will be cool to do a side-by-side with the clone I just made...

Also, are you guys dry-hopping this? I have in the past but would like to stay as true to form as possible for this next batch...seems like it should have at least an oz or two...

 

[DustBow]

I've got a sample of AB at home ready for a hydrometer reading.
It's been poured back and forth about 20 times, left out over night, whisked for a while this morning, and now sitting out all day while I'm at work. So it should be plenty de-gassed by this evening when I take the reading.
Will let you know - hopefully with pics

 

[LVBen]

I've got a sample of AB at home ready for a hydrometer reading.
It's been poured back and forth about 20 times, left out over night, whisked for a while this morning, and now sitting out all day while I'm at work. So it should be plenty de-gassed by this evening when I take the reading.
Will let you know - hopefully with pics

Yay!!! I can't wait to hear the results. This beer is really bugging me. I have the ingredients to make it, but I want to make sure I get the FG right before I do.

 

[Reidman]

Having drank this many times now, I just can't see how the IBU's in this beer are any less than 100..It's why I like this brew as much as I do because I'm a hophead...:rockin:

 

[bigbeergeek]

Having drank this many times now, I just can't see how the IBU's in this beer are any less than 100..It's why I like this brew as much as I do because I'm a hophead...:rockin:

Significantly less than 100, methinks.

 

[DustBow]

OK, after 48 hours of de-gassing - pouring back and forth, whisking, sitting out, repeat, etc. - I consider this as flat as it's going to get

It looks like a gravity of 1.017 - 1.018
Temp of wort is 76.6* (Thermoworks thermometer)
Hydrometer is an AHB w/ a range of 1.000 - 1.070

Hope this helps

 

[JimTheHick]

Nice! I was anxiously awaiting your analysis dustbow

 

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[LVBen]

Thank you DustBow!

 

[Stubbeez]

Well, I went ahead and brewed it yesterday.
Used 1.5# Special B and 11# of LME.
My LHBS only had Chinook in whole leaf though, so I added more water to the recipe but forgot to compensate by adding a little more extract, so my OG was lower than I wanted.
Pitched 2 packs of Wy-1272 anyway since they were already smacked at that point.

Will report back in 6 weeks or so.....

I am finally gettingg around to brewing my extract version of this. It looks like I might have missed a few recent revelations, but I am sure it will turn out great, even if it isnt really close.
Batch Size: 5 gal
OG: 1.080
FG: 1.018
9lbs Briess Golden Light DME (90%) - 4lbs early, 5lbs late addition
1lb Special B (10%)
1oz Chinook (60)
1oz Chinook (30)
1oz Chinook (15)
1oz Chinook (flameout)
1.5 packets US-05
1 Whirfloc tablet

I will provide updates in about a month with how this turns out. I have been waiting to try this...
I was drinking a Self Righteous Ale last night in preparation, and I almost felt that one has a lot in common with the AB - maybe just some dark grains in addition. I think I saw a recipe for that one somewhere.

 

[MaltnHops]

Tried brewing a 5 gallon version this morning. I'll let you know how it turns out. The pre boil sample had great malty flavors and the post boil sample was incredibly hoppy!

13.5 lbs. Pale 2 Row
1.5 lbs. Crystal 120
0.5 lbs. Special B

2 oz. Chinook @ 60
.5 oz. Chinook @ 15
.5 oz. Chinook @ 5

US-05

 

[LVBen]

I just brewed this:

5 Gallons

12.0 lbs 2-row Pale Malt (US)
1.5 lbs Special B

1 oz Chinook at 60min
1 oz Chinook at 30min
1 oz Chinook at 15min
1 oz Chinook at 5min

2 packets of Nottingham dry yeast

I mashed higher than planned: 159°F (I was aiming for 153... oops)
I got 80% efficiency (Oops... also higher than planned)
OG: 1.077
Estimated IBUS: 89.8
Estimated Color: 22.2 SRM
Estimated FG: 1.023
Estimated ABV: 7.2%




Attenuation: 85% (EDIT)
Measured ABV: 8.4% (EDIT)
Measured FG: 1.013 (EDIT)

 

[DustBow]

my extract AB brew has been kegged and on gas for about a week, will report back in another 1-2 when it's ready

 

[wildwest450]

I just had a bottle of fresh AB for the first time, what a stellar beer! In the past I must have had old bottles, as it never tasted this good.

I would also be willing to bet there's a very small amount of roasted barley in there. I use only 2ozs in another recipe, and it is faint but definitely there.

_

 

[LVBen]

I just had a bottle of fresh AB for the first time, what a stellar beer! In the past I must have had old bottles, as it never tasted this good.

_

Yeah! They have it on tap at the bar across the street from where I work... It is way better than the old bottles that I can get around here that sit on the shelves in warm stores.

 

[LVBen]

I just brewed this:

5 Gallons

12.0 lbs 2-row Pale Malt (US)
1.5 lbs Special B

1 oz Chinook at 60min
1 oz Chinook at 30min
1 oz Chinook at 15min
1 oz Chinook at 5min

2 packets of Nottingham dry yeast

I mashed higher than planned: 159°F (I was aiming for 153... oops)
I got 80% efficiency (Oops... also higher than planned)
OG: 1.077
Estimated IBUS: 89.8
Estimated Color: 22.2 SRM
Estimated FG: 1.023
Estimated ABV: 7.2%




Attenuation: 85% (EDIT)
Measured ABV: 8.4% (EDIT)
Measured FG: 1.013 (EDIT)

I just measured the ABV right before crash cooling...
Whoops! 85% attenuation... 8.4% abv... I'm thinking that Nottingham may not have been the best idea.

 

[EllisTX]

A former brewer from Stone was on The Sunday Session last episode and basically ruled out special B and "kinda sorta" confirmed that it's C150. He stated the grain bill was very simple.

 

[BigJay13]

A former brewer from Stone was on The Sunday Session last episode and basically ruled out special B and "kinda sorta" confirmed that it's C150. He stated the grain bill was very simple.

Weird...When Tasty added in the C150 everyone seemed to agree that C150 made it farther from being cloned. And that second attempt that was just Special B for specialty malts they thought it was cloned (well, except for Tasty). It was in the Live from NHC show. I'll have to listen to the last Session!

 

[LVBen]

Weird...When Tasty added in the C150 everyone seemed to agree that C150 made it farther from being cloned. And that second attempt that was just Special B for specialty malts they thought it was cloned (well, except for Tasty). It was in the Live from NHC show. I'll have to listen to the last Session!

You have C120 mixed up with C150. They added a little bit of C120 in the NHC 2011 version of the clone.

Maybe we should be using C150 instead of special B. They are similar, though, aren't they?

Listen around 14:40.

 

[BigJay13]

Ahhhhhhh you are right.

 

[bigbeergeek]

A former brewer from Stone was on The Sunday Session last episode and basically ruled out special B and "kinda sorta" confirmed that it's C150. He stated the grain bill was very simple.

Aren't C150 and Special B all but interchangeable?

 

[JimTheHick]

Aren't C150 and Special B all but interchangeable?

+1. I think so too. If you look at the rating of spec b I think it is 148-152.

I just tasted my first bottle of 90% 2row and 10% spec B and it was really close.

 

[afr0byte]

+1. I think so too. If you look at the rating of spec b I think it is 148-152.

I just tasted my first bottle of 90% 2row and 10% spec B and it was really close.

My special b is 120L

Edit: Apparently the Dingemans is about 150...others are 120 though

 

[runs4beer]

I'm brew an AB attempt right now but to be honest I haven't had an AB in a long time even though I walk by it on the shelf every time I'm at the grocery store (probably the same bottles for god know how long). I'll have to find a fresh bottle next month to see how I did.
12# 2 row
1.25# Bairds extra dark crystal 115-155°L
0.5 # special B
1oz of Chinook 11.5 at 60, 30, 15, and 2oz at knock out.
US 05 (because I didn't plan to brew this this weekend)
I just remembered I have no fineings...
Well, we'll see.

 

[BrewNow]

My special b is 120L

Edit: Apparently the Dingemans is about 150...others are 120 though

Maybe Simpsons Extra Dark which is ~ 160L. What about percentages? Still stay with 10% of the total grist for the C-160?