à Flannagáin
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Picked this up today for the ps3. Flipping awesome! If you have it shoot me a friend invite: seeFresh
Hell, shoot me a friend invite if you have a ps3
Hell, shoot me a friend invite if you have a ps3
Drunkensatyr said:Yeah, I need to go grab the 360 version......COD4 vs. brewing this weekend.......hrmmmm
aekdbbop said:this is why I am getting a 360 after christmas..
Any tips on which version to buy? and which is the best deal (on the console)
Ó Flannagáin said:Seems to be plenty of people on the ps3 version,s o it's keeping me busy.
Hey, Kornkob, I own a wii too and I never play. No flipping games! i just got metroid and don't really like it that much. I have Mario reserved and suspect that'll be the first game I truly enjoy on the system. And I've owned it since launch!! (Zelda was horrible, didn't finish it)
kornkob said:... and extra difficulties to develop for ...
Ó Flannagáin said:All these whiney programmers are annoying. The talented programmers realize the potential of the machine
jzal8 said:Time is money and potential means nothing if the mainstream game developers can't produce quality products for a console. In fact, that means the console will never really meet its full potential.
TxBrew said:How does it compare to BF2
Ó Flannagáin said:Bah, there's no way FF XIII could've been done on the 360 and it's going to blow people away. How long have they been working on it? years.. I don't have the exact number, but it's a lot. And, it's not planned to come out til the end of next year. That game is going to be a money maker.
Quality sells... looks at all the BS wii games that got throw on shelves in no time. They aren't selling at all. Yea, wii's are selling, but the games are doing pooooorly. Quality is money... time is just a factor.
The mainstream producers worth a damn are putting out good games. Like the guys working on Kane & Lynch, the guys at insomniac, the guys at square enix, the guys at incognito, and on and on.
Ó Flannagáin said:BF2? Not sure.. is that battlefield 2? Is that a strategy game for FPS?
John Beere said:Sorry, but NOTHING compares to BF2...
mr_stimey said:nothing compares to Contra
TxBrew said:Battlefield 2, yes. First person.
TxBrew said:How does it compare to BF2
Ó Flannagáin said:Quality is money... time is just a factor.
kornkob said:Negative, negative.
Quality is NOT money. There are a lot of games that did wonderful thigns, were high quality and didn't make much money at all.
Time IS money in development. Keeping 20-60 people working on a project for a year costs millions. Do that for 2 or 3 years and you are talking abotu a budget that is getting out of hand.
Then you have a stack of costs on top of salary, equipment and overhead.
Never mind that each console game you sell sends $10-15 to someone who is NOT your company (the owner of the console gets that off the top of each sale).
Add 3 months to specialize for a specific platofrm and you're spending nearly a million just on that platform's specific version. And add to that the factors of market penetration and household response to new games within those markets.....
It's all very well and good to talk about it as a simple thing to decide to do but the fact is a lot of time and effort goes into deciding what platforms are worth the money to develop for. Just because its an awesome platform doesn't mean that it makes sense to pull people to develop for it.
Ó Flannagáin said:So what about the big name games? MGS 4, FF XIII? These are taking years of development, and the producers are hugely successful. Are you saying htey don't knwo what they are doing?
attitude said:video games and beer brewing............ i knew i joined the right site:rockin:
kornkob said:That's not at all what I said. What I said was it is a lot more complicated than 'because a console CAN do more it makes financial sense to develop for it'.
It also depends on what you mean by 'hugely successful'. Spending 3 years and 30 million to make 40 million might seem to make sense until you look at making a game in 1 year for 6 million to make 12 million.
Critcal success does not always equal financial success.
Massive unit sales does not always equal financial success.
High quality does not always equal financial success.
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