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Owly055

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Despite our squabbles of various sorts, Americans are all pretty much a big family as far as I'm concerned. We can't be indifferent to the travails suffered by fellow Americans in other parts of the country, and honestly call ourselves patriots or even Americans. Floods, Fires, Drought, Hurricane, economic woes, etc, they should concern us all.
Here in the west, the California drought and wildfires loom large. I've long been an advocate of a solution to the California water crisis. A multibillion dollar solution, but a far better expenditure of resources than the silly border wall. Who needs a new Berlin Wall? My solution to the California water crisis is the Columbia River. An unbelievably vast source of fresh water, most of which ends up in the ocean........ But how to get it there? it's used for shipping, irrigation, etc. You can't just dig a ditch to SOCAL and divert it, nor would that be even remotely acceptable or sane. The solution is pretty obvious when you think about it. Once the river reaches the Pacific Ocean, there are no further claims on it. It belongs to nobody. No matter how much of it you took, it would effect nobody.
I propose an undersea pipeline on an unheard of scale. One many many times the dimension of the one between Turkey and Cyprus. It would be at least 100' beneath the surface, would float, being attached to mooring blocks on the seabed, and because it was undersea, it would not require any excavation, or any lift to take it over hills &c. Pumping costs would be very low due to the dimensions, and lack of any lift. Cost would be astronomical........... BUT, water has value. The products of California are of immense value, and we need to preserve this valuable asset to America. The sale of water could ultimately pay the cost of the pipeline, which would mainly supply coastal urban areas. Supplying water to these areas would free up water for agriculture and other uses away from the urban areas. Even Las Vegas would benefit, as well as other areas that depend on the Colorado River.
An infrastructure project like this would also create a lot of jobs during construction. The ultimate actual cost to the taxpayer would probably be virtually nothing. The benefits & revenue would over time exceed the expenditure.

H.W.
 
Why not try the same with the American River where it dumps into the SF Bay? Seems like a much smaller project, but if the theory is sound, also much more achievable. It could pump right into the existing reservoirs supplying the California aqueduct system.
 
Why not try the same with the American River where it dumps into the SF Bay? Seems like a much smaller project, but if the theory is sound, also much more achievable. It could pump right into the existing reservoirs supplying the California aqueduct system.

Any large river that dumps into the ocean should be "fair game" once it leaves the land. While I like many Montana residents resent the influence California transplants often have here, the truth is that I care about California and what it offers to America and the world in so many ways. It could be argued that providing water to California keeps Californians in California. I personally have many friends and acquaintances both in and from CA.
H.W.
 
What California needs is The Transcontinental Siphon to bring water from the Great Lakes :D

Maybe Mr. Burns could build it?
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Rivers don't just dump into oceans....in your example of the Columbia River, there's a huge estuary.

Desalination plants in California would be much cheaper.

The flow of fresh water in the Columbia is so large and powerful that a fresh water plume extends far out to sea, with virtually no tidal salt water intrusion into the mouth of the river. The definition of estuary is the area where fresh and salt water mix at the mouth of a river. In the case of the Columbia, that area is virtually entirely beyond the bar. There really is none of what we usually think of as an estuary such as to be found to the north in Willapa Bay or Gray's Harbor, where far lesser rivers meet the saltwater. Tillamook Bay for example would be a true estuary. The Columbia is uniquely suited for this because of it's huge flow, and relatively narrow entrance in relation to the flow................. Have you been there?

H.W.
 
Last time I visited Montana, I spotted a popular bumper sticker on vehicles. "MONTANA SUCKS. Now go home and tell all your friends"

There are similar stickers in CO. Usually "Native" on the colorado white/green mountain skyline license plate and "No Vacancy." On message boards, even this one, a typical meme is to say that Colorado blows, dont move here, etc.
 
A quick note, roughly 40% of the produce sold in the US is grown in California.

We would have plenty of water if we just quit trying to feed everybody.
 
Just for the hell of it I looked up swimming pools and golf courses per capita by state. I expected California to be near the top on both categories. Imagine my suprise when I read that California is 7th in swimming pools and 50th in golf courses. My redneck home state of Arkansas has 3 times as many golf courses per capita as California! So California is much less wasteful of water than I expected.

All of our aircraft carriers and submarines have nuclear desalination plants aboard. Scale it up, modularize it, get the cost down and there ya go.
 
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