Caddyshack is not a sports movie

[motobrewer]

just answer this for me:

do you really think baseball is SOOO much more a physical activity than golf it's in an entirely different realm?

 

[Scruffy1207]

The dining while playing argument is invalid. I don't play golf. Nor do I watch it, but I'd agree that golf is a sport. Just as volleyball is a sport. You can drink doing anything.

 

[Reno_eNVy]

12 miles! you must suck at soccer too, running around needlessly

Um, the quote you put in said the "average soccer player." I said midfield.... average takes into account keepers. But even keepers run an average 2-3 miles a match. Middies, since they run the entire length of pitch over and over, run an average 12-15 miles.

lol! aw, you got "boxed out"! people are "hitting you"? rugby matches are 90 minutes as well. try playing....well any position in rugby. run close to the same distance. oh, you're also getting hit. and i mean actually hit, not slapped on the wrist.

First off, I wasn't about basketball. When does slapping on the wrist ever occur in soccer? Secondly, I wasn't talking about how hard or how much you get hit in soccer. Why is it that anytime ANYBODY talks about soccer, it's immediately a meathead's job to say, "But they don't hit like in football/rugby." Cool, that's your only argument. Way to go.

haters gonna hate. i never said it was "THE MOST EXHAUSTING SPORT IN THE WORLD!!!!" all i said was golf is a physical activity. apparently you didn't take my sylvan advice.

Right, a physical activity... not a sport.

yeah, people golf on vaca, they ride.

Exactly... it can't be that physically demanding if people do it when they're trying to relax.

semi-related, I think in like Sweden or something you need a doctor's excuse to take a cart.

So is it officially not a sport there, too?

 

[Reno_eNVy]

just answer this for me:

do you really think baseball is SOOO much more a physical activity than golf it's in an entirely different realm?

No, it's really not and it's an argument I've made many many times. I actually think baseball is the second-most boring thing to watch on TV.... right behind golf.

Honestly, I'd consider baseball a game more than a sport *ducks head* HAHA, well actually it's just more of an automated highlight reel maker. 3-4 hours of standing that gets you < 60 seconds of a highlight reel? Yup, incredibly demanding

 

[passedpawn]

I actually think baseball is the second-most boring thing to watch on TV.... right behind golf.

Bowling?

 

[Reno_eNVy]

Bowling?

Third most-boring. At least in bowling there are people to make fun of in the stands.... I mean, who PAYS to watch people bowl?

 

[motobrewer]

Um, the quote you put in said the "average soccer player." I said midfield.... average takes into account keepers. But even keepers run an average 2-3 miles a match. Middies, since they run the entire length of pitch over and over, run an average 12-15 miles.

http://blogs.wsj.com/numbersguy/tracking-how-far-soccer-players-run-112/

When AC Milan’s Gennaro Gattuso (MIDFIELDER) was replaced in the 85th minute of the club’s 3-0 defeat of Manchester United in a Champions League semifinal earlier this month, he had run more than 10 kilometers, according to an on-screen graphic.

by "more than 10 kilmeters" they clearly meant 24 kilometers

"But they don't hit like in football/rugby." Cool, that's your only argument. Way to go.

run a similar distance, and get hit. it's a valid argument

Right, a physical activity... not a sport.

i get the issue here, you just don't understand words:

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sport

ignore definion 'b'....or, don't?

a : a source of diversion : recreation
b : sexual play
c (1) : physical activity engaged in for pleasure (2) : a particular activity (as an athletic game) so engaged in

"but, that's not MY definion of sport!"

who gives a sh*t?

wa wa wa my name is reno and i write the dictionary wa wa wa

 

[Reno_eNVy]

http://blogs.wsj.com/numbersguy/tracking-how-far-soccer-players-run-112/

It sent me to an advertisement page to subscribe to Barron's... do you work for them? I think I'm going to have to flag you for spam

by "more than 10 kilmeters" they clearly meant 24 kilometers

Yes, because one single isolated incident is the same as an average of every single midfielder. Math isn't your strong suit, is it?

run a similar distance, and get hit. it's a valid argument

A) You don't run a similar distance, B) You get more substitutions, C) There are actual breaks in play in which people can get a breather, D) Apparently you've never played soccer so you have zero input as to how much physical play occurs.

"but, that's not MY definion of sport!"

who gives a sh*t?

wa wa wa my name is reno and i write the dictionary wa wa wa

Ah, very mature... and quite astute, if I do say so myself. I especially like how you not only resorted to swearing but you also are pointing out something I never said. Now I understand how you come up with such outlandish arguments: you're a windowlicker. Now I feel bad... it's almost like I made fun of the mentally challenged kid in class.

 

[motobrewer]

It sent me to an advertisement page to subscribe to Barron's... do you work for them? I think I'm going to have to flag you for spam

you have to copy/paste the link. i don't run the internet...

Yes, because one single isolated incident is the same as an average of every single midfielder. Math isn't your strong suit, is it?

one single, isolated incident? are you saying that in this particular game, a European club championship game, he happened to run less than 50% of the "average" distance? that would be a pretty big statistical outlier, don't you think? but, yeah, it's my math that's questionable

so, you keep saying you're right i'm wrong, but haven't even tried to give some evidence.

A) You don't run a similar distance, B) You get more substitutions, C) There are actual breaks in play in which people can get a breather, D) Apparently you've never played soccer so you have zero input as to how much physical play occurs.

A) according to actual numbers, rugby players run about 80% of the distance soccer players do
B) rugby does have more subs, 7 vs 3. in practice though, they are generally reserved for injuries, and most players play the full 90.
C) there are certainly stoppages in play; there are stoppages in soccer as well, as well as general "idle" time for players, but rugby certainly has more time off.
D) I have played soccer, and i agree there is much more running involved. but rugby is more physically demanding.

wait, i thought you were a lacrosse player?

 

[arturo7]

this thread went to hell in a handbasket...

 

[Reno_eNVy]

one single, isolated incident? are you saying that in this particular game, a European club championship game, he happened to run less than 50% of the "average" distance? that would be a pretty big statistical outlier, don't you think? but, yeah, it's my math that's questionable

Um... yes, that is what I'm saying. Learn more about math and statistics and you'll understand why it's not so odd.

wait, i thought you were a lacrosse player?

I've played soccer since I was 4 but played lacrosse in college since they didn't have a men's soccer club at the time (Title-9 school.)

 

[Reno_eNVy]

this thread went to hell in a handbasket...

Just having fun trololololing ^_^

You should never expect much in this forum!

 

[the_bird]

I have 85 year old clients who hit the links multiple times a week. These guys take a good twenty minutes to shuffle from their cars to my office, yet they still can play. That kind of removes the "physical" aspect from golfing, IMHO.

Here's another thought. Is "hiking" a sport? That's a lot more physical than walking around a nicely manicured lawn. Often carrying a pack that weighs more than a set of golf clubs. No caddies, unless you count Sherpas.

Never heard anyone refer to hiking as a "sport," though.

Golf's a game with mild physical elements. I mean, ****, ****ing playing "Twister" can be considered physical, too!

 

[eanmcnulty]

http://m.dictionary.com/d/?q=sport&o=0&l=dir

They are all sport.

 

[motobrewer]

Um... yes, that is what I'm saying. Learn more about math and statistics and you'll understand why it's not so odd.

lol, please explain then, oh wise one.

 

[motobrewer]

also, for the record, i'd just like to say....

i'm f-ing terrible at golf.

but i do enjoy it.

 

[jezter6]

I hate golf.

I try to play at least 1-2 times a month when it's not too hot/cold.

 

[lschiavo]

I hate golf.

I try to play at least 1-2 times a month when it's not too hot/cold.

Me too. I really only do it for the intense workout and the beer drinking. If golf is not a sport beer drinking definitely is so I'm covered.

 

[Scruffy1207]

Um... yes, that is what I'm saying. Learn more about math and statistics and you'll understand why it's not so odd.

So there are players running up to 36k in a single game? I call bs. That would make him a marathon runner. And a damn good one if he can do the new york marathon in 90min. Even 24k is a pretty big feat

 

[motobrewer]

no dude, it's "math"

15 miles in 90 minutes is roughly 10 miles per hour. for the entire 90 minutes. lol!

 

[wildwest450]

So there are players running up to 36k in a single game? I call bs. That would make him a marathon runner. And a damn good one if he can do the new york marathon in 90min. Even 24k is a pretty big feat

I'd never watch a marathon, but i'd watch one before a soccer game.


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[Scruffy1207]

I'd never watch a marathon, but i'd watch one before a soccer game.

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Lolol!

 

[rycov]

who says you don't get hit in soccer? when i played both teams always had a few players bleeding by the time the game was over. you guys are doing it wrong.

also golf is like pool or darts, but with walking. its a game, sorry fellas

 

[wildwest450]

Hmm, I goggled soccer hits and found this...

 

[rycov]

Hmm, I goggled soccer hits and found this...

actually thats me! how do you guys play?

 

[trigger]

I have to defend rugby here, I played for 11 years on and off until my back surgery. I was also forced to play soccer (I used to ski race and for some stupid reason skiers think soccer is good dry land training for racing). Soccer demands a lot of skill and aerobic capacity. It's a sport. But it's in no way as physically as demanding as rugby. I played second row and loose forward. We do all the running the soccer guys do, but as a forward I was rucking or mauling constantly (for those that don't know that's when you drive the opponents off a tackle). Whenever there's a set piece the forwards are either scrumming (the big huddle thing where 8 guys from each team push as hard as possible against each other), lifting or driving a lineout (picking each other up then pushing till you have an anneurism against the other team), or running downfield to do more tackling, rucking and mauling.

Training for rugby is exactly like Marine Corps PT. It takes all the aerobic fitness of being on the track team plus the strength of wrestling. It's about the whole package, not just being able to run.

 

[Reno_eNVy]

Hey hey I'm not knocking rugby... it's a brutal sport and indeed requires a lot of endurance. But basically what I'm trying to say is this (DISCLAIMER -- these are not attempts at summarizing the sports into neat packages. Just things I'd like to point out):

Rugby Football: tons of running coupled with intense physical contact.

Assocation Football (aka Soccer): tons of running, minor hitting, coupled with what physicists and anatomists call, "One of the most unnatural activities to the human body." In other words running for 90 minutes while doing things the body was not designed to do.

Just sayin'....

 

[motobrewer]

...coupled with what physicists and anatomists call, "One of the most unnatural activities to the human body."

who exactly said that?

 

[rycov]

Reno eNVy did. it says his name right by where he posted it ( )

 

[funkapottomous]

return of the jedi sucked