Burnt wort = burnt taste (HELP!!!)

[Gremlyn]

Boiling grains? It seems that there are some AG misconceptions coming out in this thread.

Seriously... boiling grains should NEVER happen! Not even in a decoction.

 

[Synovia]

Seriously... boiling grains should NEVER happen! Not even in a decoction.

The wiki disagrees:

Once the first temperature rest is complete, a portion of the grain and water is scooped or shoveled out of the mash tun and into the kettle or another heated vessel, where it is brought to a boil. The portion removed, which can often be as much as a third of the grist, is called the decoction.

If thats not the case, the Wiki needs to be fixed.

 

[Gremlyn]

The wiki disagrees:

Whoops... yeah. I hastily mis-spoke For some reason I was thinking that it was just mash runnings boiled in the decoction. I was hoping to get back and edit myself before anyone noticed

Even still, how you'd burn grain that way...? There should be enough liquid to even the temp out and if you're boiling then the grain shouldn't be able settle on the bottom.

 

[menschmaschine]

Even still, how you'd burn grain that way...? There should be enough liquid to even the temp out and if you're boiling then the grain shouldn't be able settle on the bottom.

In a decoction, all but a mash-out decoction is a thick decoction. Stirring should be frequent and a gas burner shouldn't be on full blast (my other mistake) while the decoction is boiling to prevent scorching.

I've done numerous decoctions since that first one and they have all produced wonderful beer.

 

[Joker]

I missed the decoction part of the post. However, not many people use that method for mashing.

 

[Mattf15004]

I recently made a west coast ipa which i scorched the grains on the botton of the pot also. It gave off an unfortunate burnt flavor but I caught the burning shortly after it started and was able to stir more thoroughly my problem was I put all of migraines in a green bag and submerged it directly on the bottom of the pot. The problem was too much heat on the bag which burnt the bag so I remove the bag and then what was getting burnt was just the grains. Unfortunately there's nothing you can do about this problem except hope it wasn't too overwhelming. In the future I will use a green bag again but will put something in the bottom of the pot to elevate the bag from the bottom

 

[sd_brewbie]

Whoops... yeah. I hastily mis-spoke For some reason I was thinking that it was just mash runnings boiled in the decoction. I was hoping to get back and edit myself before anyone noticed

Even still, how you'd burn grain that way...? There should be enough liquid to even the temp out and if you're boiling then the grain shouldn't be able settle on the bottom.

Tried my first decotion and had the same misunderstanding as you... but I took it all the way: https://www.homebrewtalk.com/showthread.php?p=7148490#post7148490