Buffalo NY group buy?

[tagz]

If we have someone to make the run, I'm definitely in. Anyway we could get pricing on a few varieties? I'd be interested in Avangard pils if you still carry it.

 

[pmichael]

Yes, there are other grains available. I will come up with a list of available and price and post it on a web page that I will not publish anywhere but on this thread, as it will be only for the Buffalo bulk buy and not for public in general.

Will try to get it up in a couple days.

 

[b-boy]

Yes, there are other grains available. I will come up with a list of available and price and post it on a web page that I will not publish anywhere but on this thread, as it will be only for the Buffalo bulk buy and not for public in general.

Will try to get it up in a couple days.

That would be great. Thanks.

 

[allentwnguy]

It seems base grain prices are similar to the price of a gallon of gas here in Buffalo, we pay the highest. I've searched on-line and GW 2-row base grain is costing from $29 - $36 per sack, here in Buffalo $60. I called a MoreBeer Claifornia store and asked how much a sack of GW 2-row was... $36.99, the same as on-line. I wish they would open a store here in Buffalo!

 

[b-boy]

It seems base grain prices are similar to the price of a gallon of gas here in Buffalo, we pay the highest. I've searched on-line and GW 2-row base grain is costing from $29 - $36 per sack, here in Buffalo $60. I called a MoreBeer Claifornia store and asked how much a sack of GW 2-row was... $36.99, the same as on-line. I wish they would open a store here in Buffalo!

I think shipping is the issue. The farther away you are from a barley field, the more you're going to pay. Grain is heavy, so I guess it makes sense. I know in the group buys I've been in, the shipping generally adds about $7-$8 per sack to the cost.

 

[TheCADJockey]

Just to be clear, if this goes down... sign me up for a bag. Please and thank you.

 

[b-boy]

I'll be happy to coordinate the buy, put in the order, and pick up the goods. I'll even handle the money if you're comfortable with that. That way you could use PayPal. Is there a way to do an escrow in PayPal? Or we can just stick to delivering checks right to the Dunkirk shop.

Once we see the price lists, maybe we start the official buy. I'll setup a pick up point somewhere that's convenient for everyone as well. People can do splits, but you have to figure that out yourselves.

The process would be:

• Open the buy
• Collect orders
• Close the buy
• Collect $
• Place the order with Dunkirk
• Pickup the grain from Dunkirk
• Distribute the grain

Any feedback and/or ideas. I'd love to see this work out.

 

[TheCADJockey]

I approve of this process, for what its worth. I'll ask my buddy if he wants any as well.

 

[TheCADJockey]

Hey not sure if you guys saw this or not... if you have or are already involved, don't mind me. There's nothing to see.

Kegworks Group Buy

Caught a link to this from facebook. Kegworks is doing a group buy 45.50 for 2-row #50 sack.

 

[b-boy]

Wow...talk about timing. This looks pretty good.

 

[TheCADJockey]

Think ya guys just going to give kegworks a go?

 

[allentwnguy]

I think shipping is the issue. The farther away you are from a barley field, the more you're going to pay. Grain is heavy, so I guess it makes sense. I know in the group buys I've been in, the shipping generally adds about $7-$8 per sack to the cost.

The largest barley growing area is North Dakota followed by Iowa. The Maltsters are all over the place but north central to northwest with Briess and Rahr in WI and MN respectively. I don't know it is what it is I guess...

I did call Kegworks to inquire if they were going to do a group buy a couple of times a year because I don't know if I will be able to hit this one or not and was told that this was a "one try" offering to see how it goes. I said having bulk sales like this pre-brew season was a good idea. A good showing might solidify more bulk buys. I hope I can get a sack or two.

 

[TheCADJockey]

The largest barley growing area is North Dakota followed by Iowa. The Maltsters are all over the place but north central to northwest with Briess and Rahr in WI and MN respectively. I don't know it is what it is I guess...

I did call Kegworks to inquire if they were going to do a group buy a couple of times a year because I don't know if I will be able to hit this one or not and was told that this was a "one try" offering to see how it goes. I said having bulk sales like this pre-brew season was a good idea. A good showing might solidify more bulk buys. I hope I can get a sack or two.

A local homebrew club actually posted it, thats how I found it. They seem fairly active and if they are supporting it, I have a feeling it may go well.

 

[b-boy]

Thanks for posting. With this going on it may be tough to get enough volume for a group buy with Dunkirk. I'd still like to see that happen. The prices he offered for 2-row are pretty good. I'll open the group buy as soon as he posts prices, but I'm not sure what type of response I'll get.

I'd really like to see a regular group buy taking place in Buffalo at least 3x per year. I brew with several people and we go through grain like crazy.

I did manage to get some price lists from other group buys outside the area. Overall, the prices they are asking (with shipping) are pretty close to what Dunkirk and KegWorks are posting. We're paying maybe $3-$4 more per sack. That's not too bad.

 

[TheCADJockey]

Yeah sounds good man. I still don't have anyone to brew with, so I kind of have been taking it slow but I have the gear to go all-grain now. I'd like to do the bulk thing, and to be honest... I'm not a huge fan of how kegworks moved in right next to niagara tradition with lower prices. I know I can get stuff at kegworks cheaper but still go one block over to support the guys that got me into it.

 

[b-boy]

Me too. Burt is awesome!

I'd rather support the smaller local guys as well. Especially for a few bucks difference in price.

Get yourself a few food grade buckets from Lowes with gamma lids and you can store your grain for a year without any problems.

 

[allentwnguy]

NT was there first in the early 90's and KW was 98. But KegWorks was set back off Military (still there with the warehouse) then added the store front on Military.

I guess it really is splitting hairs when you figure price per lb and then take it further to price per pint! I'm just putting an order together for MB to make a IIPA and a cream ale (testing for a summer all day beer)

 

[TheCADJockey]

Burt kills me. He is great. I go in with a simple question, he talks my ear off for half hour and I come out with more questions lol. Love seeing the lady there though, she always gives me a hops candy when I leave. Feel like a kid in a candy store.

 

[b-boy]

Burt kills me. He is great. I go in with a simple question, he talks my ear off for half hour and I come out with more questions lol. Love seeing the lady there though, she always gives me a hops candy when I leave. Feel like a kid in a candy store.

WTF - I've never gotten candy!

I've probably paid for half a year's rent on the place too.

 

[TheCADJockey]

Uhh. Disregard. You heard nothing from me... Lol.

 

[allentwnguy]

never got candy either but have spent at least 45 minutes gabbing (always cognisant of customer count!) and got a lot of take away knowledge especially in the early in my brewing.

 

[SupervisingChildren]

I never get candy either. Kids always bring quarters and buy gum when we go there. I'll usually be there for a while talking with them too and have definitely gotten some good info.

I need to take a trip there today or tomorrow to get some more stuff.

 

[TheCADJockey]

Same here. I started making cider since my wife helps me with my beer, but all she drinks is cider. So now she goes there with me and ends up buying more stuff than I do, its amazing.

I need to go pick up some flip-tops for her cider today or tomorrow, another carboy, a bigger kettle... some grains, maybe a burner .. lol.

 

[b-boy]

I need to go pick up some flip-tops for her cider today or tomorrow, another carboy, a bigger kettle... some grains, maybe a burner .. lol.

Well...Enjoy the free candy!

 

[TheCADJockey]

Eww.. someone sounds jelly

 

[tagz]

Well, either way (keg works or Dunkirk) keep us posted. If the prices are close, I'd defer to Dunkirk because he's been generous in offering this up before. Plus he probably has more variety as KW is probably using the local malter. Plus I suspect he may be able to give us a pretty good deal on Avangard pils as it runs a bit cheaper than other brands.

 

[augiedoggy]

I got the email from Keg works too... 45 bucks for a sack of grain is a good price but there is another member here that does local group buys for under $40 a sack... I bought my kegerator from hi. On craigslist and he was in the process of opening a nano brewery downtown...wish I could remember his name...

 

[augiedoggy]

I'm hoping to get some good brewing ideas tonight at Buffalo on tap!

 

[b-boy]

I got the email from Keg works too... 45 bucks for a sack of grain is a good price but there is another member here that does local group buys for under $40 a sack... I bought my kegerator from hi. On craigslist and he was in the process of opening a nano brewery downtown...wish I could remember his name...

That's jdomres. He used to run a grain buy a few years back.

 

[augiedoggy]

Well it was just last winter that he told me he still does it.. I wonder if he still does it from time to time?