Brotherly Love APA Recipe

[Bassaholic]

I've been toying around with an APA recipe using Simcoe and Mosaic. I haven't brewed with either of these, but I figure it'll make for a nice combination. I think I'm on the higher end of IBUs for a pale ale, but I like a hoppy beer. Here's my recipe so far:

Brotherly Love APA

OG: 1.059
FG: 1.015
IBU: 50

Grain Bill

4 lb Dry Malt Extract - Light -47.1%
3 lb American - Pale 2-Row - 35.3%
1 lb American - Red Wheat 38 - 11.8%
0.5 lb American - Caramel / Crystal 60L - 5.9%

8.5 lb Total

Hops

1 oz Simcoe @ FWH
0.5 oz Mosaic @ 60 min
0.5 oz Mosaic @ 10 min
1 oz Simcoe @ 5 min
1 oz Mosaic @ Flameout

Wyeast 1056 American Ale fermented @ 68F

I know a lot of people pair Simcoe with Amarillo or Citra, but I want to see what it tastes like without being covered by a fruitier hop. That's why I figured to pair it with Mosaic since it's derived from Simcoe and shares a lot of characteristics, but its a bit fruitier. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.

 

[bobbrews]

Since Mosaic is the first born offspring of Simcoe, Child Love would be more appropriate, but then again that's illegal.

I like your recipe overall and just have minor changes based on preference. I would prefer slightly lesser amounts of red wheat and crystal for the sake of adding more 2-row. Mash this around 147 F to offset the limited fermentability of the DME. I would add a dryhop and go with a traditional bitter of a lesser amount. Shift more hop focus in the late boil as well. Ferment at 65 F.

From my experience with tasting a couple of single hop Mosaic beers, the hop is more fruity than anything. It is not very piney or dank like Simcoe can be sometimes.

 

[Bassaholic]

Hah I have a feeling most people wouldn't want to drink a beer called child lover, but I agree with you on the bittering hop. Maybe I'll go with .5 oz of warrior and move the rest of the additions later.

Also I was planning on mashing low, around 148 or so, but was wondering what the difference between red and white wheat malts flavor wise? I was partially using it for the color instead of adding more crystal.

 

[EyePeeA]

Red and White Wheat are the same Lovibond (color). There is really no meaningful difference. Some brewers claim that red wheat offers a slightly richer flavor while others do not.

 

[Bassaholic]

Huh thanks for the info. I figured that red wheat would add more color. Do you think I should use a darker crystal malt or does in not really matter that much?

 

[EyePeeA]

For IPAs, I prefer no crystal malt all the way up to C40. I rarely go as dark as C60, but a lot of people do. Use of C80 and above is quite rare in IPAs. Things can get really pruney, toasty, rich, and sweet the darker you go. % of crystal malt matters though, too. 2% of C120 would be a hell of a lot better than 8% C80.